So apparently the polish version doesn't have glass, even with maxed out graphics.

If it's confirmed, then with the current route that'll only make it easier to accomplish the window jumps at Bank and the RWS office then. Stefeende also mentioned that he was playing unpatched. If any other interesting details come out then I'll consider looking into obtaining a copy.

Yeah, I know. It's an extremely small advantage, but still worth a try.

Maybe for running Monday, but for Any% I don't think it's a trend that'll catch on soon.

Hello, I might be the future speedrunner of this game and I want to discuss a few things.

1. I can confirm that polish non-steam version of the game DOES have glass no matter on what graphics settings.

This issue is caused by this:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/223470/discussions/0/618459405721519774/

2. Milk shop glitch that Idiom has used in his run is very helpful but unfortunately it's not possible to do with your framerate below 40 FPS. When I try to do this glitch when not recording, it does work everytime but when I start recording with OBS with 30fps lock (my hardware won't let me go further) it doesn't work no matter how many times you try.

Also the "anti-thief" doors don't exist on polish version after you steal the milk.

1. So you have to change the rendering mode from OpenGL to D3D?

2. Can someone confirm this?

No idea what's "anti-thief" doors.

Exactly but in steam version this option is no longer available since paradise lost release.

The doors I'm talking about :

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=611958210

It's not possible to pass them since they are already finished closing before you reach them.

Hmm, seems like the retail version doesn't have the anti-theft doors. That's why I didn't recall it. Not sure if we should change the rules because of that.

As for the missing glass, so far there doesn't seem to be any big advantage (if any at all), so I don't think there's a need to change anything. Do you agree?

The possibility that the 'stuck' system is based on FPS is intriguing. I don't think any changes are needed for a specific release or anything. I'm looking into a massive skip on Thursday at the moment that I've seen performed, but I couldn't replicate it on the Steam edition. And I mean MASSIVE. Maybe retail version will be the future of Postal 2 speedruns.

"Milk shop glitch that Idiom has used in his run is very helpful but unfortunately it's not possible to do with your framerate below 40 FPS. When I try to do this glitch when not recording, it does work everytime but when I start recording with OBS with 30fps lock (my hardware won't let me go further) it doesn't work no matter how many times you try. "

Can confirm this. Recording in Game Capture on OBS causes lag for me which makes the skip impossible to do, but it works fine if I do it in Monitor Capture.

"I'm looking into a massive skip on Thursday at the moment that I've seen performed, but I couldn't replicate it on the Steam edition. And I mean MASSIVE. Maybe retail version will be the future of Postal 2 speedruns."

Hopefully we can confirm this as well.

A bit late, but what's that new skip on Thursday?

I did some light testing on the current patch (30-45 mins of it) and didn't get results. A bit of light clipping sometimes, but never all the way through the ground. I found a copy of the pre-Steam edition but haven't tried to test this exploit.