Currently, video proof is required for all runs and has always been required for all WR runs. However, there are several WRs on the leaderboards with no video proof attached. We need to decide whether to keep these runs as-is, delete them, or keep them with some stipulation.

I would like to propose removing any WR runs that are not the ONLY run of their game/category. For example, the KHFM Any% (Beginner) run by Saiyanz would be removed, but KHFMHD 100% (Beginner) by SpaceBoundBear would remain in tact since it has no contesting runs. I realize this can be a controversial topic, so let's get some discussion going and please remember to keep it civil. Remember to remove your egos from the topic, especially if your name appears on the list below.

Edit: My feelings on this proposal are not crazy strong, but it's the first I came up with.

Runs any ruling on this matter would affect: ¤ Kingdom Hearts Final Mix - Any% (Beginner) in 5:06:22 by Saiyanz ¤ Kingdom Hearts II (JP) - All Worlds (Beginner) in 5:27:38 by KHfan169 ¤ Re:Chain of Memories - Sora's Story (Beginner) in 2:38:53 by D_Winds ¤ Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix - Silver Crown (Level 1) in 10:25:46 by Bl00dyBizkitz ¤ Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix - Cavern of Remembrance RTA in 5:47 by Bl00dyBizkitz ¤ 358/2 Days (JP) - Any% (Beginner) in 4:43:41 by Drazerk ¤ Birth by Sleep Final Mix - Any% NG+ (Terra) in 1:16:58 by SonicShadowSilver2 ¤ Birth by Sleep Final Mix - Any% (Ventus, Beginner) in 1:56:03 by Yukonuko ¤ Kingdom Hearts Final Mix HD - All Worlds (Proud) in 4:21:53 by Zetrile ¤ Kingdom Hearts Final Mix HD - JJ 100% (Level 1) in 8:31:05 by DJSALTYNUTZ ¤ Kingdom Hearts Final Mix HD - 100% (Beginner) in 18:12:17 by SpaceBoundBear ¤ Birth by Sleep Final Mix HD - Any% (Terra, Standard) in 1:55:25 by KHfan169 ¤ Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix HD - Any% (Critical) in 4:45:51 by Bl00dyBizkitz ¤ Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix HD - Gold Crown (Critical) in 11:05:56 by Rain_Airou ¤ Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix HD - Platinum Trophy RTA in 31:24:46 by ChoiceTick

I don't think removing WR's that don't have video proof is necessary. Even though video proof is required for runs now, i think we should keep those WR's as is. Especially because i assume most of them were done on stream.

i agree with ninten. i feel it would be mean to WR holders if they didnt have a local recording they could upload.

Some of these runs should have videos, I would check the runners youtube, twitch and then ask them if they have a video of it. If there is anyone who didn't highlight or whatever because a lB mod just updated it then you should not delete the record. For example, I know BB streamed his Silver crown run but some mod probably updated it right when he finished. He might have felt it is somewhat arbitrary so he didn't make a highlight of it. Now we would be deleting a record we know actually happened, but because of what a lb mod did in the past we are removing someone's record. Not fair to the runners. Best solution imo, don't mess with those runs at all. Try and find vods and attach them if you can, if you can't then oh well.

I like Timmi's idea of placing a comment on the run stating specifically that it was verified by mods during its livestream under legacy rules.

I think its fine to keep the records if no one else on that specific leaderboard has a problem with it. If someone on the leaderboard does have a problem with the WR time and the WR holder can not provide some sort of decent video proof or at least have a mod defend the WR because they saw the run when it was live streamed, then yes I do think its acceptable to take WR runs down. Also I like Timmi's idea of adding a note to legacy WR's to help clarify to anyone that might be confused. I do think however that any new WR from now on, must have video proof of some kind rather then just have a mod saying they saw the run.

I believe that these runs should stay as it gives new or current runners something to strive to achieve. As an example my current goal in 2FMHD crit is to beat BB's time. And I also feel if these runs are removed new runners won't know some of the times they can achieve and how they can grow with their abilities within that run.

Keep them. Especially if they were done before proof rule was officially put in place

Been a while since I replied on here, but the obvious overwhelming opinion is to leave all the old records. I think commenting with something akin to "legacy run" could be useful, but I'll leave them as is for now.