Achivements not included in 100%
3 years ago

Hello, I am curious as to why the fact that achievements are not included in the 100%? Like if it was only a steam side thing, then I would understand that much. But if you go to the bonus part, it will show you that there is a list of achievements to earn in game.

Québec

Eeeh achievements aren't tracked in quite the same way as children are, so I considered all children to be actual 100%. Adding achievements on top could be called "true 100%" or "110%" or whatever, which I don't mind adding as a category. At that point though, I'd make it a requirement that the achievement actually pops up during your run purely for confirmation purposes, and due to how achievements are tracked at the moment*, you'd need to exit out of the game and come back in between each attempt.

(*As it say you start the game, start a run from a new save file, finish the first level, at that point, you'll get the truant achievement in-game popup. If your run dies, you go back to the main menu, start from a new save file, and finish the first level, THEN the achievement will NOT pop up, 'cause the game considers that you've already gotten the achievement during this session, and it's not programmed to allow for multiple pop-ups of the same achievement during a single game session. Truant is used only as an example, of course, 'cause it's pretty hard to beat the game without getting that achievement, but for something like Pitch Black or El Muerto, you'd really need the pop up to confirm to viewers/verifiers that you got it)

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Québec

Awrigth so I added some categories on top of all the ILs. I also remembered that there literally is an in-game achievement(The Son) for getting all the other achievements, so I made that the name of the category.

Due to The Son wanting you to get all the other achievements, you may not need to reset the game between attempts, but I don't remember if progress is tracked between save files during a single play session. Say, for example, you walk 20,000 steps in one attempt, reset without quitting the game, and start a new attempt/save file, I don't know if you'd get The Adventurer achievement after 5,000 steps or after 25,000 steps, as intended. From what I remember (I haven't played since around christmas :P), I think it'd be after 5,000 steps, so you WOULD have to reset the game between attempts of that category.

Anyway, ILs are set up, so you can start practicing and setting times for those in preparation for full game runs.

Fair enough. And I think El Muerto would be where The Son speedrunners would end up taking a small break in the level that have the last coffin since you literally need to be in a coffin for 5 minutes

Also Eel Hijo might be a run killer as if you get caught once, it would more or less mean to restart.

Québec

Nah, you can get caught during the run without restarting, I think. That achievement basically checks to see if you have the illuminati symbol for all levels (the symbol you get for completing a level without being caught). If it turns out that it's faster to do an "inspire the children" run of the level WHILE getting caught to reset the enemy cycles, and THEN do an any% eel run of the level, then the Son% run will just have the same level played twice. It might get kind of annoying in The Escape, though, due to the rocks being sometimes unavoidable (thanks, RNGesus), and being crushed by a rock counts as getting caught.

And yea, either El Muerto or The Adventurer would be the last achievement. Maybe do El Muerto halfway through the run(Sandstorm, maybe?) so you get a break, but for adventurer, I think you could just do your run normally, and once you get to the epilogue, you walk around until you get however many steps you still need.

I personally think El Muerto would be done in the catacombs after a 100% run since that is the fastest coffin one can get into.

Québec

Yeah that would work. You can even get your last steps in right beside the coffin, anyway. Both options make for a pretty anti-climatic end to the run, though, but that's just due to the nature of those two achievements :P

Yup Unless they take a break before the epiloge to do them

Game stats
Followers
3
Runs
11
Players
3
Latest threads
Posted 3 years ago
3 replies
Posted 3 years ago
2 replies
Moderators