No I understand clearly, but you still haven't addressed my counter towards that, so the point is actually lost on you (or you're sidestepping it).

~ Token

I don't follow, but a moderator liked my post, so I think I'm right.

Moderator liking your post just means they agree with what you said, doesn't necessarily mean you're right.

yes, it's technically easy to tie IGT but, it's also easy to tie with RTA depending what timing method is used. Case and Point: Barney's Hide & Seek. 

That game uses an RTA method to time the run but look at the amount of ties that game has. At one point before the 4:22 was possible, there were literally 30 ties of 4:27. 

All of them were RTA. 

~ Token

That's why, in the case of a tie, we use decimal timing for RTA, ESPECIALLY when main series Mario games Don't provide decimals in their time.

"That's why, in the case of a tie, we use decimal timing for RTA, ESPECIALLY when main series Mario games Don't provide decimals in their time."

Which goes back to MarioManTAV and my point of:

"RTA may be more accurate, but I would still prefer IGT. By far easier to track, and ensures fairness. In RTA, you can potentially have the 100% ideal strat played perfectly and lose simply because someone else's console loaded 3 frames faster than yours, which just isn't fair. IGT ensures that every time the same strat is used (assuming no RNG) the result and time to complete are the same. "

and

"This on top of a timer not starting exactly when it's supposed to which loops back to what I said about competing for milliseconds. "

~ Token

it'd be cool if we could add a timer like they do in the challenge mode with a hack or something.

anyway i think both arguments have their merits. i think using IGT is fine for now, and has worked alright for the NSMBDS community.

Would one option lead to more submissions? We don't even have a submission for 1-1 any% right now lol.

I personally didn't want to start doing any ILs until a timing method was determined beforehand. 

~ Token

I still stand by my argument, but that's why I suggested starting an RTA timer on first input rather than on selecting the level.

NSMB DS has always had a system that's rather strange with IL's and IW's, compared to what has been allowed in every other game (excluding Wii with the recent rule change.)

The reason I lean more towards IGT is we barely have any submissions for ILs and i think IGT is a much lower barrier to entry than having to time your run out yourself, especially on things like first input to first frame touching the flag.

Alright I guess I can agree with that.

What do we do in the case of a tie though?

You'll have to share the title or find a better strat

IL Time Tracking

ewaller

LightOfEon

MarioManTAW

New Super Mario Bros. U

8-Castle

Wii U

Inforcer

Boost Mode

No Boost Mode

Time

1h 25ms

34m 51s 291ms

34m 50s 200ms

34m 54s 933ms