@a_jar_of_hair_mayo "I'd recommend finding a way to prove it." We already know this phenomenon exists. We runners know it exists. The driving experts know it exists which is why the cap the fps to 60. You didn't watch the dam video. I brought this up 11 months ago. You are suggesting I invented a phenomenon 11 MONTHS AGO to invalidate people's runs TODAY. Are you insane? https://www.speedrun.com/gtav/thread/qqka4

Illuminati was asking to determine the specifics that FPS differences have compared to each other, not whether or not the phenomenon exists.

You are either trolling or so hell bent or believing me to be a con artist that I could literally teleport us into the game using VR and show you the tires bump up and down and you would tell me I was simply a wizard pulling a trick. Attempting to convince the incredulous is a waste of time, especially in this case where you have no involvement with GTA V.

Even in that video, they don't show a significant difference, just that a difference exists. Even in the direct comparison, it's less than a 5% impact on a straight. I don't think it's significant enough to be a serious impact on a run, you're more likely to have bigger impacts on traffic RNG.

Also, could you behave yourself? You're insulting me in every post you make. It's getting pathetic.

"I don't think it's significant enough to be a serious impact on a run" Your incredulity is duly noted. I am not hand walking you through things you simply do not want to accept. Your lack of runs submitted into any speedgame suggests you are an alt account and are trolling me.

"could you behave yourself" You literally begun this be calling into question my integrity and claiming I was attempting to rig a system for personal gain. That my friend, considering how much you had to be unaware of or actively ignore, is pathetic. I am happy you have backtracked away from this after about 10 minutes, good for you. Asking for a person to respect you after you call into question such things is the grandest hypocrisy. May as well speak of murdering my family and ask for biscuits.

I'm only tolerating you at the moment because I don't want you pushing other people's PBs off of the leaderboard. The reason I stopped coming to your streams was because you went on a ridiculous, 20 minute long attack, because you didn't think bandwidth throttling was a thing. The world is bigger than your understanding of it. You would do well to try to understand other people's positions on these things. Given your propensity for hyper aggressive behaviour when things don't fit your ideals, yes, I do think you're trying to create a situation that enables yourself to do better in the category; I think currently, you're trying to bully and push down any opinion that doesn't see eye to eye with yours.

My opinion stands, I don't think the difference is great enough as it has been presented to warrant a new rule that invalidates old runs. If anything, if you want to create your ideal world of fairness, make a new category called 60/75/90fps whatever it is you settle on, and just run that.

@a_jar_of_hair_mayo "I do think you're trying to create a situation that enables yourself to do better in the category" Lay that out. Explain the logic. I have already detailed how every action I have taken hurts my ability to get a world record, but let us not let facts get in the way of what you feel has to be true.

":you're trying to bully and push down any opinion " This forum post is literally calling for additional god dam opinions! The post you read from illumanti has me complimenting him for something I hadn't considered! You feel 'bullied' because you opened this conversation with an evidence-less conspiracy theory, like your bandwidth throttling diatribe (it does exist just not in the sense you spoke on). You immediately backpeddled on whether or not the FPS phenomenon actually exists (well thought out position that one was) but admitting you are wrong seem a little too much to ask. You started by effectively saying "Hey man, fuck you DarkViperAu" and then you expected me to converse with you kindly? Are you crazy?

"My opinion stands" Yes, I agree you know nothing about running this game and have built an opinion on that basis. Regardless of what those more knowledgeable than you might say, fuck them, you are right because you feeeeel you are right.

I feeeeel like you're being duplicitous by disguising your want to remove leaderboard PBs as a game issue. I'm not the only one, by the way, that thinks this is an excuse to claim records that you can't hit at the moment.

"like your bandwidth throttling diatribe (it does exist just not in the sense you spoke on)" You're still gonna double down on that? Mate you have massive issues with acknowledging your opinion is your opinion; you seem to lack the capacity to divide your opinion from presented fact. Just talking with you here is stressful because you can't understand that, from my perspective, I acknowledge the fact it has some impact, but don't believe it alone would be enough to either make or break a PB/WR. So, because you can't grasp why I have that view point, you're lashing out over and over again.

I don't want to see other people's PBs invalidated because of your inability to divide opinion from fact. Like I said, if you want your perfect world, make your own category. At the moment I see more absolute votes for 1 than any other.

"your want to remove leaderboard PBs" But I don't want to do this, I just suggested it as a solution because it is logically a solution and one already brought up previously.

"I'm not the only one, by the way, that thinks this" I agree you are not the only dumb person on the planet. You do understand removing PBs would...remove...my world records...right? There are only 4 categories I care about and I already have three of them. I am only 30 seconds off in the 4th. Removing PBs wouldn't give me any world records..it would actually "invalidate" 3 years of my runs including my world records, which I clearly don't want to do unless its voted for. Can. You. Think. About. What. You. Say.

a_jar_of_hair_mayo : Multi-time Classic% WR holder DarkViperAU has engaged in an 11 month conspiracy to retake the classic% WR for the 9th time by, rather than just improving his run by 30 seconds which he has done 20 times, calling for votes on rules with the hope that an unpopular position becomes voted on the most! This will not get him a world record, it won't even get him the legacy classic% world record and it would invalidate his own records. What a diabolic genius!" LISTEN TO YOURSELF!

"massive issues with acknowledging your opinion is your opinion" I literally have chronic self-doubt. I literally have a psych degree which causes me to question everything I believe because I literally studied human bias. Its just in this case what you are saying is so stupid that doubt is hard to express. You seem to have missed that I can see inside my own mind with 5000 hours of speedrunning experience in GTA V and you are both claiming things about me that I KNOW are factually wrong and things about the game that I know are factually wrong only to a slightly lesser extent. You are then saying "Well I don't agree" and I am responding, "So fucking what" as none of this concerns you and giving you a crash course to educate you is beyond what anyone should do. Fuck me I had to lead you to videos that everyone else has seen, but you didn't watch, just to teach you that the thing you asserted didn't exist....actually existed. What a god dam waste of time that was. I have explained simple concepts that demonstrate how your claims are false and you just brush them aside as if they are nothing because truth doesn't interest you. Look at what your conspiracy looks like mate, this is the world you have put yourself in due to a personal dislike.

"I acknowledge the fact it has some impact" It learns! It learns!

"I don't want to see other people's PBs invalidated because of your inability to divide opinion from fact." I have never read something so dumb in all of my life. You are literally on a post asking for opinions so we can have a god dam vote and you are arguing I don't know what facts and opinions are. I suspect you lack the mental capability to understand this, but I will try anyway, you are an idiot.

Reverted back to no FPS cap, enough of this drama, happy speedruning. Locked