I mean i Have PC WR IGT. On Consoles WR have RE Snow - 1:11:09. On PC can't to get 1:11:09, cause 6-2 chapter dont work rocket glitch. impossible to get 1:55 on PC.
Clearly there is a problem. So lets keep the boards the same for now. 60 fps cap, same rules, ect. Until we can all agree on something
The rules are fine the way they are now.
Honestly reading through these boards leaves me incredible disappointed with this community. It's always had a few bad apples, but I've never felt the need to have my voice heard so strongly until all of this childish bickering commenced.
Khomchik's entire argument is not that IGT would make the game more fair, or more representative of the runner's skill, or give a more accurate representation of how fast the game was completed. It was "I'm now the fastest, so change the rules for everybody so I can see a #1 next to my name."
Everyone is only throwing around suggestions which serve their own interests rather than considering what is right for the community as a whole. This is the kind of contemptible behavior that is killing this board. There are obviously incredibly strong egos at play because every single one of these discussions is based around certain people pushing for rule changes that will give them the edge.
Right now, with the rules as they are, NOBODY has an unfair advantage, with the inescapable exception of PC/console. Why would anyone who loves this game and cares about the people who play it want to change that because of the pressure of a few washed up runners who can't get a record fairly and instead come groveling to the boards for the mods to change the rules so they can get their name on the board and devalue the work of people who have put serious hours into becoming the best?
Of course Auddy, I wasn't calling out any of the mods in particular, I'm more trying to project a message to the community at large and particularly to those who aren't posting to the forums. I know you're just trying to figure all of this out and I commend you for taking the charge and starting the conversation in the first place.
I'm for igt but I'm not doing it for any gain. I still wouldn't be in 1st even IF igt got the vote. I was bring up a previous thing that Hoobie said. That console and pc are unfair due to the fact of not being able to one cycle. I was saying that igt would be fair now, I never said we were going to do anything about it. Just clearing some things up.
Well since Khomchik has since deleted his original post, along with his video evidence of how to perform the one-cycle, it's fair to assume he was either cheating as he is a known cheater, or it's a 30fps thing that literally no one except for him has been able to consistently replicate.
Either way, the rules should remain as they are. RTA is clearly the only viable choice for NG, and dividing the timing rules for NG versus NG+ is not only confusing but also sets a double standard wherein it's okay to menu for as long as you want in NG+ but not NG. The rules should stay as they are.
One cycle is possible (maybe) I've done it many times on Xbox. And we all watched the video. I haven't tried on Steam. Ever. So who knows.
I deleted post cause you dont want IGT. And I'm not a cheater. I prefer a fair play. I showed proof one cycle video yesterday.
I'm for IGT cause its fair time than RTA. People who have nice PC can to get WR RTA easy, but IGT WR its so hard i Think and more fair. IGT would make the game more fair, or more representative of the runner's skill, or give a more accurate representation of how fast the game was completed. Like you said.
You simply don't understand how the mechanics of RTA vs. IGT timing work.
The reason we are against IGT timing is because it literally allows unlimited menu time since time spent in the inventory and menu is not counted by IGT. This is an absolutely unacceptable flaw in IGT timing for the same reason the timing of many other games is done by RTA. Not only that, but IGT is harder for the mods to verify.
Furthermore, you failed to realize that the virtues I mentioned such as fairness or representation of runner skill were entirely rhetorical. In fact IGT is none of these things. Instead of parroting what I said and claiming it's what you believe, try coming up with some actual evidence to support your claim. You said "I got a one cycle so change the rules for the entire community so that I can be #1". Sorry to break this to you bud, but nobody gives a shit about who is #1. We care about the rules being fair and not favoring one party over another.
Right now the rules cap framerate at 60fps. If your computer can't run at 60fps, you're out of luck. Sorry, that's just the way it is. You can still get a world record at 30fps, almost every coop WR on the boards is done with one player at 30fps. The difference is marginal at best. Instead of blaming your computer, try getting better.
The only reason you gave for changing the rules is because it would give you the advantage. That's an invalid reason. If you put half as much effort into improving your run as you did trying to persuade the mods to change the rules of the run, you'd probably have WR by now.
Yeah, you are right about some words, but this honest time not because I have a world record and I want it to impose all but because so even developers have thought up time in this game. I want to offend nobody here now, just most of people except me want more IGT too and understand that this game is more ground under IGT time, than RTA.
Just RTA hasn't been thought up in this game as the present and by that doing discrimination on the power of your computers. I have a good personal computer, but at my workmate isn't present and therefore it is heavy to us to make RTA in very good time, and in IGT everyone will be able to make time what he will want, isn't dependent on personal computer power
Understand that RTA will be able to set up a world record not everyone, and here IGT can put everyone if it very much tries. I thought earlier too when I haven't made one cycle yet that it is necessary to leave RTA, but after a yesterday's case I was convinced that it is possible to change rules for IGT. Personally my opinion also I don't want to offend anybody, I only just it have offered administrations.
Are you saying that because RE5 has an in-game timer, that it should be used as the primary means of timing a speedrun? Because that is simply not the case. Nearly every game has an in-game timer, but you need to evaluate it on a case-by-case basis on whether or not it is actually accurate. In RE5, it most definitely is not. I can sit in the inventory menu for 2 months and come back to beat the game with an IGT of 1:15. That does not accurately represent how quickly I beat the game.
I'm not even sure why you are arguing about whether or not you can get world record, because if you can get a one-cycle that already puts you a full minute ahead of the people running 60fps. By your argument, being "forced" to run at 30fps is actually an advantage! You should easily be able to beat their RTA time if the rest of your run is as good as theirs. Your case for IGT is about as solid as a wet paper bag.
Khomchik could you try to keep it in one post? It kinda looks like you are spamming when you triple post.
