Campaign Runs -- scenario order
8 years ago
Massachusetts, USA

[10:09:47] <mhmdfvc> I've been wondering about something for a while [10:09:57] <mhmdfvc> whether or not campaign runs should require the scenarios to be done in order or not [10:10:13] <mhmdfvc> I did a glory of greece run out of order but it feels odd

Speedruns don't usually stick with what's intended in a game, but to me it doesn't feel right to do the last scenario where your civilization is at the top, and to end it in the first scenario where you're in the Stone Age or something. I have to admit, this may sound like a very dumb argument, but let's go look at the intended scenario order. If you start from a fresh player profile, you have no choice but to do them in that order. Sure, you could just HOME RUN or I R WINNER your way through them all and then do an out-of-order campaign run, and I really don't have a good argument against that, but I don't get the vibe that it really feels "proper". Also, every single campaign run that is up on the AoE series leaderboards has the scenarios done in order as far as I know, so it wouldn't even affect anything currently up.

There could be a rule where you'd be required to create a fresh player profile for campaign runs for every reset past the first scenario so it's less "NG+" or however you want to call it, but I don't see the need for it really. Just an idea that people might wanna think about.

For the other side's sake, free scenario order would allow for more RNG-heavy scenarios to be done earlier on, and would be more convenient for grinding.

Personally I'm in favour of having and enforcing a rule that requires any campaign run to have done the scenarios in order, because, while it's possible to mess with the order for the sake of convenience, it just contradicts the point of the campaign in the first place. I'm not sure how many people who are interested in AoE runs will even see this post but I'll give it a go.

VOTING 1) Add rules for keeping the intended scenario order for campaigns. This does not include doing campaigns "in order" for All Campaigns. 2) Leave it so that the scenario order can be decided on by the runner.

If you have more to add, please do so. I need more opinions.

Netherlands

It would definately be easier to run campaigns out of order, so you can skip easy/slow levels for last.

But I will still vote for 1

In addition, All campaign run feels odd. We spread it over an original game and its expansion. Does this mean you have to run all the levels in the expansion version? Can you do the original ones on original version and rest on expansion? Can you switch between them whenever you like?

Georgia, USA

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