I'm not entirely comfortable with you riding off of UKSM's coat tails even though you got in as a runner and didn't attend the event in spite of that, and left it until the last minute to tell anyone you weren't attending, moreover.
Instead, why not actually try supporting UKSM rather than going off and making your own marathon?
"Personally I think one or two marathons in the UK a year would be ideal. One in the spring and then in fall."
You say that, Adam, and yet you didn't even turn up to UKSM in the first place, even though there was an Undertale run at the event. So supportive.
Okay then, let me rephrase.
You think UK marathons are a good thing, and yet do nothing to support them when they happen. You did absolutely NOTHING to support UKSM. You didn't even show up in chat or donate. You can call me harsh but it REALLY annoyed that you then had the audacity to come into the thread and say that after showing no support to existing marathons.
And you know, I wanted to tell you it was a thing. I honestly thought I did. I thought I asked you if you wanted to attend. Maybe I didn't, because well, I physically couldn't. I don't want to get too personal, which is why I'd prefer you message me privately, and I'd very much appreciate it if you did, because there's a few things I'd like to say.
UselessBrit - "I understand that it was a pain in the ass that I dropped out last minute, but life happens. I donated multiple times during the marathon as a way to say I was sorry and to support the event. "
FactoriesFarAway - "You didn't even show up in chat or donate."
I think you misread something buddy. Unless you are refering to BrokeSatan instead, in which case, personal matters could mean anything from funerals, to hangovers, to school, to all sorts of things that would prevent someone from donating or remembering to donate during an event.
Please stop being so negative and ask for people's full sides of the story first. Or listen to their side if they already said it.
I'm referring to BrokeSatan. And he's someone I do actually know.
Obviously, if you couldn't tell that by context (BrokeSatan saying he didn't know about the marathon - UselessBrit knowing about the marathon but not attending and leaving it until the last minute to tell organisers he couldn't), you are one to say "listen to the entire story first". Because you clearly don't know the entire story yourself.
I did say he didn't even show up in chat too. And no, he didnt retweet about it, didn't use word of mouth. So please don't give me that. I'm absolutely not guilt tripping him to donate if he doesn't have money. I said he didn't support the event in any way, because he didn't.
Also as a side note, I didn't pretend like I knew the entire story either, I guess I should have prefaced my remark with "As an outsider who doesn't know anyone here personally or never heard of UKSM until a week ago"... I simply observe and comment on my observations. I listen, and just ask others to listen too. This wasn't a thread about a call to action, nor game submissions, ideas about what charity to host, what it would be called, when it would be, what platforms to use, themes, none of that... This thread was about if the idea was something people wanted, and if they wanted it enough to possibly try to volunteer.
As an onlooker looking at this, both FurryWultz and BrokeSatan both had thoughts on this premise in their original responses without insulting the OP. It's just called respectful discussion.
Man, I only found out about UKSM a few days after it finished, any chance of having a marathon in Scotland? ;)
On a separate but related note, I was really impressed by UKSM including the production quality, runs, commentary, MCing, etc and hats off to the team for having the guts to make such a go of it.
I couldn't make it to this one as I only heard about it very shortly before and had other commitments that weekend, but I would definitely consider attending the next one subject to location etc.
I'm not British. I thought I should start with that, because you all seem quite fond of "ad hominem" attacks instead of focusing on the issue at hand. Please stop mentioning who did and did not support UKSM, because that fact has so far been entirely irrelevant to anyone's argument. Moving on, as a neutral party, I want to make a few observations I have made so far:
Oversaturation of marathons is an issue that can't be ignored. That's not to say that organizing an event is a bad idea, but you have to be aware that there simply isn't enough spectator interest relative to the number of available marathons at present. The problem isn't so much that there aren't potential donors or spectators- I think there is ¤a lot¤ of untapped potential out there, and I'm working myself to cultivate interest in the Pacific Northwest- but there isn't enough distinctions between the marathons that are currently being proposed. The thing is, instead of all working together to help each other, we are all trying to compete for the same fan base, and this will inevitable end poorly for everyone.
That said, regardless of your intention, I think FFA has a point in saying that starting another "UK" marathon is feeding off of what UKSM has already done the work for. If you would like start another marathon in the UK, that is fine, but you should build your own foundations, support, fanbase, sponsorships, and genre rather than borrow the ones that the coordinators of UKSM have taken the time and effort to cultivate. There are plenty of other themes out there to choose from, not just location.
I'm not saying that organizing a marathon isn't a good idea, but that making one that is associated with the "UK" location simply because UKSM was so successful is not the right way to go about doing it. It's a noble idea, but from the outside, it makes you look like the ant that saw how successful the grasshopper's strategy was and now wants a piece of it without doing the work for it. If you want to start a marathon, be creative! Find an untapped and unique clique of your own. Start a speedrunning marathon featuring food and wrangle up charities that are associated with feeding the hungry or whatever. There is literally an infinite number of possibilities depending on how you market it.
Oh, and please stop saying that people's ideas are stupid because of actions they have done in the past. The person who says the argument has nothing to do with the argument itself.
"Social welfare’s task was never to squander its resources in ridiculous useless ways that lead to the corruption of the individual, but rather in eliminating fundamental weaknesses in the organization of our economic and cultural life." ~Adolf Hitler
I can't think of a better way to squander whatever momentum you built up than to close with a quote by Hitler.
If it's a good quote, does it matter who spoke it?
A distinction should always be made between words and the person who spoke them.
[quote]If it's a good quote, does it matter who spoke it?[/quote] But he's talking about socialism. Which is bad in its own right.
In the (probale) words of the late, great, Charles Manson, "Sharon Tate is pretty."
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Most Native American communities were socialist. The fact that Russia implemented it poorly doesn't necessarily mean socialism is bad in its own right. Don't confuse socialism with communism.
I guess I'll get my points in civilly while this thread still exists.
Socialism is one step above communism. Venezuela is socialist. If you look at what they're going through then you'll socialism is not the way to go.
No, he's right. That went a bit off the rails. Sorry about that- I tend to forget where to draw the line. Thanks for stepping in before I took it another three pages, ha!