Category Overhaul
7 years ago
Virginia, USA

Since Brodute is going to continue making hacks for the next few years, any run with the current definition of the apprentice challenge or master's challenge will be invalidated with the release of a new hack. Because of that, I think it is a good idea to define some fixed categories for this challenge that will not be invalidated by new releases.

Currently the scrub's/standard challenges work pretty well as a staple category for people to get into, and they will change as new hacks are released, but it gives people the choice of what they want to run, so they are probably good things to keep (and there are already existing runs of them so getting rid of them wouldn't be a good idea).

As suggestions for categories to replace the apprentice/master's challenges, I would think that night of doom should be required in them, so possibly a category like "main series 100%" as the basic rule, which would mean SR1, SR2, SR3, SR4, SR5, SR6, SR7, and SR8 all 100% in a row might be a good idea. Similarly there could be a "main series any% intended star count" as another one, where it is the same games, but any% intended star count instead of 100%.

I say "any% intended star count" because some of the games will have skips that allow you to do any% with very few stars, but I wouldn't want to ban specific techniques such as BLJ in SR6 50 star or in SR7 61 star, since I think it is much better to be able to use anything available in the game, and have the real requirement of the run just be the star count of the last required star door. I suppose another way to put it would be no star door skips, but that would ruin SR7.5 82 star because the mips clip for the switches and early green switch.

Either way, if you guys aren't going to just cede control of the modding of this game over to me, we should probably agree with how we will define the categories so that they can be more playable than the ones we currently have. Once the series is complete we can add back the current apprentice/master's challenges, calling them "full series any% intended star count" and "full series 100%" or something.

Also we can add miscellaneous categories similar to the SR1 run-a-thon, like an SR6 run-a-thon or an SR7 run-a-thon.

SubmarineCpt, FrostyZako and 4 others like this
Virginia, USA

Alright, since you guys seem to like my idea (and haven't said anything about it), I have gone through with my proposed changes to the rules and categories putting placeholder miscellaneous categories for the full series runs to be made main categories when the series is finished. If anyone has any ideas for other categories to add, just post them in this thread and we can discuss it here.

North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

i actually don't think, you'd have to invalidate NO "full series" runs... as he (brodute) clearly said, there won't be an sr9 or sr10/srX, all the »choose one hack with every number« will still remain correct runs with new/recreated hacks coming out!

only the »play EVERY game« is of course no longer valid, i agree.

speaking of »choose one hack per each number« ☛ are sr0.5 (older than sr5, but isn't written in the descriptions explicitly like e.g. 2.5) and 5.5 allowed? is 6.25 allowed? is 4.5 allowed? is 4.9 allowed? 3.9 should be like 6.9 NOT allowed. is 3.5 allowed? must sr0 be included? should 2act1 (NoD) AND 2act2 (TTM, not demo) be included?

EDIT: i knew, it was said somewhere...now i recognized, of course: do we want to add SRX? :D i think, no.

Edited by the author 1 year ago