High Scores - what shall we do?
5 years ago
Michigan, USA

Hey all, just got to this thread. After doing some searching, there are a few other domain names available, namely highscores.com (basically the same, but with an S). As far as I can tell, gamescores.com may also be available. I'm definitely in support of finding an alternate domain for the high scores, and I think getting highscores.com may be the best option at the moment.

Canada

@Chrixiam As has been brought up several times already, that domain name costs nearly 100k dollars. There are plenty of other reasonable alternatives that wouldn't be nearly as expensive.

Poland

Add it to this site! Make it, that you can choose in a certain category a type.

United States

I’m a little late to this thread but I figure I’ll put in my two cents. In my opinion a highscore section of speedrun.com or highscore.speedrun.com would just dilute attention for both of them while also creating a confusing domain name. Speedrun.com, or whatever website is created, does have a significant chance to be the premier highscore website considering SRC’s reputation and the odds are only increased with pooled data from highscore.com and cyberscore. What I would recommend would be a sister site to speedrun.com that has the same look and format to it. This way the new website would be easily relatable to SRC for a new visitor and you could have a tab on the top bar to change between them. As for the domain, I liked someone highscores.com idea but that might be too similar to the original highscore.com so I’m not sure. I did see in the SRC discord that highsco.re was available though.

France

I don't think that's a good idea. I mean the site is "speedrun.com" for speedrun and not highscore. Maybe to work with the owner is good or buy the site but I don't think that's a good idea to make one site for speedrun and highscore...

San Diego, CA, USA

I'm excited this is getting talked about. I like the idea of option #1 - different domain names but same userbase and interface, so people who are interested in speedruns and highscores can do both (and people who are only into one don't have to). I'm semi-active on highscore.com - I think it's pretty good site, but it also feels like too few people spread across too many games.

There are a LOT of sites that would be worth looking at for ideas and also info about scores: MARP (http://replay.marpirc.net/), RetroUprising, Restart Syndrome, high score threads from http://shmups.system11.org, Gamest/Arcadia scores (http://stormoid.com/gamest/gamest.html), Aurcade (http://www.aurcade.com/)

Monmouthshire, Wales

Before any expansion, there are a few issues that could do with addressing:

  1. Acknowledge where times/scores have been copied from. At the moment there is nothing at all. If a score originated on another site such as Cyberscore, VGR, Wii-Records etc, it would be nice if the relevant leaderboard on those sites was linked.

  2. Respect the privacy of people whos times/scores you are copying. They might have posted their real name on another site 15 years ago, that doesn't mean they'd want it posted here. Use a nickname or abbreviation.

  3. Moderators verifying their own records - Surely this shouldn't be allowed?

  4. Assuming if something is 1st place here, it's a World Record. It's very misleading.

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Valhalla

Mods verify their own runs here all the time.

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Essex, England

If the run is valid then what's wrong with a mod verifying their own run?

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Argentina

I don't think it's 100% wrong to have mods verifying themselves when there are video submissions. If there's something wrong with the runs, it's out there for anyone to find. If a game has multiple mods, chances are one of them will catch the fake run, if there's only one mod or mods are protecting each other, there are always series mods, content mods or above to solve those problems. Of course, if a mod is caught cheating or helping cheaters, then their punishment has to be more severe than a regular runner's.

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West Virginia, USA

Don't shoot me, because I'm all for scorerun.com or some variation thereof that operates like speedrun.com because it's a great model, but is the goal for this project to be the centralized place for high scores? That will take a lot of time and there are lots of variables affecting its potential success. Again, I support a new high score site run like this one here.

The opening post says there's no universal/go-to but then goes on to compare other sites to Twin Galaxies, as if TG is the reference point here. Doesn't that by definition indicate that TG is the go-to? Not trying to get into a semantics argument, but if people are comparing other high score sites to TG then it seems like TG is regarded as a standard of some kind, and if there IS really a standard of some kind, scorerun.com (or whatever it would be called) would have to overcome the perception of that standard. Again, I support it, and I want to see it, because the model here at speedrun.com is a very sound model with game moderators handling all aspects of the games they moderate.

New Brunswick, Canada

@bensweeneyonbass TG has lost a lot of reputation over the past years. they were the "go-to" site, but after all that has happened their reputation has sunk and we can't accept a lot of the scores because that the verification methods were not very trust-worthy.

Canada

Not to mention that TG was never that good in the first place, they just happened to be first. Being better than TG really isn't a high bar to clear.

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Ontario, Canada

If there are not other active mods in a game and or they dont agree on to no self verifying then thats something the mods and community decide. I dont see the problem with self verified runs, if no others are active or no other mods. If there are other active mods then if everyone agrees to it mods submit runs like anyone else would and not auto verify them. It's more of a code of conduct thing the mod team and community would establish rather then need to be enforced. And this topic is not related to the actual topic at hand.

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Canada

@MASH "And this topic is not related to the actual topic at hand." Uh, yeah... did you by chance mean to post this somewhere else? Like, perhaps here: https://www.speedrun.com/Talk/thread/z16cg

Ontario, Canada

Well that would be a more fitting place but it was in response to how people are trying to dictate that moderation with highscores would differ and should be different then how most communities would most likely already handle things. Mostly in response to @Mandalore comments.

Mexico

One question:

I did an impressive run of the High Score Category of the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles for the NES, the maxium points is 9'999,400, after that it goes to 0. I did it all in one run, of 7 hours and 58 minutes. My run is in the forum. So do that count for this High Score stuff new topic or no thanks? Well thanks everybody for your support, really apreciete it.

Canada

@thenesmaster I don't think you understand the point of this thread. Read the first post.

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United States

@thenesmaster I'm pretty sure that that would count as being a speedrun, since you're trying to get a certain goal as fast as you can, rather than trying to get as many points as possible.

(And yeah, wrong thread.)

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New Brunswick, Canada

it would be a speedrun in that case @thenesmaster if there was a high score category, your submission would be for 9,999,400. the time wouldn't matter on a high score board