Downgrading your game to a previous version, is it allowed for upload?
3 years ago
Norway

I was wondering if going back to an earlier version of the game and speedrunning it in the current time is allowed since some exploits such as combo cancel (used by a controversal zerker runner here) do have a valid run still. I'm wondering out of curiosity. Technically anyone can downgrade their game to an older version.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Ontario, Canada

Runs are generally done on current version since the game is primarily focused on its updates and additional content, we have had this discussion in the past and if it was found to be patched out or removed then previous runs using exploits would be at risk of being removed.

Norway

Why is Rango's record still up then? It doesn't make much sense to me. Also christmas skin zeds have bigger hitboxes then vanilla, so you will be at a disadvantage to other runs that has them if you restrict people from downgrading their game to a previous version, either that or it's wait another year for next christmas just to speedrun. That would especially make speedrunning occur less often meaning that it would be more unactive.

EDIT: I am not saying remove the oudated runs that is not in the current build, just have the option to run it in a different version including the patched glitches since Rango's runs with it are still up.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Ontario, Canada

One thing that I was thinking about doing that most other retroactively updated games that speedrunners play on it track the current patch when the run was played on for filtering purposes, tho this wont affect the default ranking but only when selecting the desired patch or range.

DM the run in question and I will have a look at it. If anyone at any point sees a questionable run direct it to either myself or @Kino_Der_Toten .

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Ontario, Canada

I do want to do some more cleaning and organizing of this board since the extensions board is a bit more organized then this one after I had moved all the runs over to it that were not standard IL category runs.

Like wise we do need to apply some updates to the rules that will retroactively keep intact the majority of current and future runs. Ideally we want to keep runs as competitive as possible for everyone to do runs regardless of platform since functionally the game is the same across all platforms.

Australia

To give my opinion, I think reverting to previous versions is fine, if one does it purely to get Christmas zeds with bigger hitboxes, that is then the same as just playing the game during Christmas events within a current patch. Either we just don't allow Christmas zeds or other seasonal zeds if the hit box is bigger period, or we allow people to revert versions for such zeds as you'd be able to do it anyways when Christmas comes around.

As MASH said, just DM one of us for any further inquiries if desired.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
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Ontario, Canada

Problem I have with reverting versions and disallowing seasonal runs is that it severally limits and poses problems when it comes to verifying and keeping content and runs competitive on the board. As far as the run in question goes (Thank you to @Kino_Der_Toten for dming that run), its a perfect example of a game breaking bug/glitch that was later fixed but then was circumvented again from tampering with controls to which of the ways it was done in the run is unclear without talking to the runner directly for more info.

There is a few things we can look at doing to sort this and similar potentially issues out but I will speak to the runner first if possible before anything is done. In the meantime I encourage discussion of what things other may suggest we can look into and if its some of the options I'm already exploring, which I will disuse more at a later date.

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