120 star run almost always impossible (update much needed !)
4 years ago
Québec

Hi, recently I get CONSISTENTLY fucked over by TTC's red coins because there's always one spawning OOB. All my best run attempts are dead so far because of how broken it is.

I am writing this in hope that I can speak to Arthurtilly the author since it seems to be the only way. The solution from the author's perspective would be so braindead simple to implement since he knows his own code in the ROM Hack that it would only take a couple of minutes of his time and save days upon days of wasted attempts.

I would just propose he puts an additional constraint on the randomized objects position in TTC only based on the absolute value of the X and Z coordinates. Assuming the shape of the In-bound area of the level is in fact a regular octogonal prism centered on (0,0) all he'll have to do is check each object is within bounds with condition ( abs(x) < diameter && abs(z) < diameter && abs(x)+abs(z) < diameter*sqrt(2) ? ).

I don't know if this is exact but I assume he knows exactly what is the shape the TTC walls reproduce and if not, he can figure out easily exactly how much.

Right now, there's always a red coin spawning somewhere above a "moving bar" starting OOB.

Thanks for your attention.

Québec

Come on, Arthur. You must've seen this. I can see infos on your profile saying that you were last online only one day ago and you only moderate two games (both ROM hacks)...

Question to any mod.: I want to know how a newer version of this ROM hack gets "recognized" as valid and within the rules to make it into the leaderboard. Is it just de facto consensus between mods ? Do we absolutely need Arthur's input in this ? If I have to make that change myself, can I get the change to be adopted by speedrun.com and if yes, what do I need ?

Pennsylvania, USA

I'm not a mod, but I do kick around the Discord so I may be able to help.

TTC's reds always seem to be fixed by freezing the clock (jumping into the clock "painting" at 12 will freeze it when you end up at TTC from wherever). I think they fixed this in the upcoming version. I've played rando a lot and I've only once not been able to get all reds from a frozen clock.

I think that's the ruleset they set. My opinion would be kinda silly to keep allowing older versions to post times (I think each version should have it's own section, but I think that's unlikely).

Campania, Italy

I Think That A Fixed Version Would Be A Good Thing! I Already Think That Impossible Seeds In General Aren't fair Already,But If The Same Errors in TTC Keep Going,Arthur really needs to fix them.

Québec

So there is an upcoming version ?! I'm curious what changes will be introduced. Are you sure Arthur will fix this ? Can you please pass the message in case he isn't aware of how much of an unbearable time-wasting record-ruining issue the OOB reds/stars in TTC are ?

When should I expect a v0.51 or v0.6 ?

KrystalSM64
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
4 years ago

v0.51

Québec

Cool... when ? and will TTC be fixed ?

KrystalSM64
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
4 years ago

@TheMiracleMatter and @Sanicbiscuit, see in the discord server, the version 0.51 is ready

Campania, Italy

@Prodigy Let Me Guess,I Need To Verify My Discord Account To Chat In It?

Québec

That's nice but the rules state "Beta versions of the randomizer (e.g. beta testers on discord or otherwise) are not permitted. Only official releases are allowed."

Is v0.51 considered an official release yet ? Seems to me that if it's supposed to be a release (that IS ready), there should be some announcement or update somewhere and Speedrun.com should have the v0.51 option available in their dropdown menu.

New Zealand

v0.5.1 has been released, it was announced on the Discord and the YouTube release video was updated accordingly.

Campania, Italy

Does It Still Contain The Problems in TTC?

Québec

I don't think it does since the discord server listed TTC as one of the levels for which OOB stuff was fixed. "- Fixed various OoB spawns in WDW, TTC, and Tippy."

I don't have the time to try it this week, month or even year for now... I'm very busy but I will try it once I find the time.

Québec

BTW, thank you very much for that, Arthur !

Sincerely,

Pennsylvania, USA

41476 is imp bc ssl star 6 spawns in the elevator roof