Maiden Voyage
4 years ago
United States

I would assume you're talking about the load in time being faster. The timer starts when the player gains control of the ig character not when you load in, so it shouldn't be a problem. Go ahead and send in a recording of you starting the voyage and we will look into it.

England

I've updated the description based on research by MrLeSinge. It's not a pc thing as much as an internet thing it seems as he was able to replicate it by briefly disconnecting from the internet. If this becomes too difficult to replicate i don't mind deleting my run but this raises a new issue. Maybe none of us gain control at the same time. It might be by a second or 2 with my run being a dramatic example. So then we need to decide if we stick with the current rule and include manipulation/RNG or make time start when the pirate lord starts speakinh

France

I don't know if it's possible to do this on Xbox so may be split the two record, one with the load glitch and the other glitchless. Does someone run in Xbox to confirm this?

England

Upon going through every run submitted, the Pirate Lord does actually spawn 12s after the player gains control, apart from in my world record run. So this does mean that only I appear to experience this. Whilst MrLeSinge says he's managed to replicate it by fiddling with the internet, I've not actually seen it done by anyone except me. As such the community has 2 choices, try and do it yourself to get a faster time with a lot of effort, or make it so time starts when the first text box appears. I know we're all online at completely different times, so here's a straw poll. Now you can vote on what you'd prefer. https://www.strawpoll.me/19356995

England

The latter option of time starting when the text box appears means in my run the time would start before I have control. If the runs starts when the pirate lord starts talking load times dont matter. If anything spawning late is bad because you might not be able to instantly eat a banana. The text box appears as soon as he says that line anyway.

United States

What about starting time when you receive the shovel?

(Edit: We can go back and shave time off the completed runs pretty easily as well. Just a suggestion.)

Edited by the author 4 years ago
England

Doesn't that serve the same purpose as starting when the text box does? Although admittedly that is the point where time actually starts getting saved. And yeah I don't mind just re-timing all current submissions so people don't need to try again

United States

Well, if time were started when the shovel is given, or really any arbitrary point (i.e. discover old chest, pick up old chest), it would ensure than anyone running has already gained control of their pirate. Also it would mean you aren't hovering over the start button waiting for the drop. On a side note, I haven't played Maiden Voyage yet. I'm pretty excited

(Edit: Just started it. how about the Banana. Also i have no problem gaining control before the first text box.)

Edited by the author 4 years ago
France

Yup actually the first action you NEED to do is to eat the banana. The second trigger in the quest is the sword, with no optimisation. If we compare the two runs, take the sword aroun Auddy 1:15 and Toastiewaffles around 0:52. They are actually lots of possibilites between the time you eat the banana and the time you take the sword or the time you take the shovel (like go to the boat, start repairing or taking the planks ...).

AND there is also an other thing, the first action you CAN do is for some people moving after you wake up, but the fact is you can moove during the black screen (to go closer to the boat, eat banana and repair it before sword).

At my eyes those two runs are equaly good, they are just not with the same boost at the start so not the same category (like games you can do manipulations in the menu before starting that will change the RNG after). In speedrun we use glitch, but some are major and change the way of the speedrun.

So, should we consider first moove, awakening? Black screen (bad idea i guess cause it will make diference between computers performance)? Text box? Should we name the glitchs and split in two category for a 20 sec difference boost at the start?

Edited by the author 4 years ago
England

Okay after leaving the poll open for 2 days it looks like the consensus is that rules should be changed to have time start when the pirate lord starts talking, regardless of whether you have control or not. I'll retime all submissions later today and change the rule

England

All submissions have been retimed for the new rules, I can't wait to see new runs being submitted with these new rules

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