Segmented run category
8 years ago
Valhalla

Might as well do two runs then.., on hard and on easy... but even if there will be a substantial time difference between them (tho I doubt), I will still see the harder run as better. Again, just my POV.

Czech Republic

"I didn't notice a tendency that people choose the easiest skill levels in speedruns, in general. In TASes it's almost always the hardest setting, and it's clearly stated what is the setting of the run. Same with standarized (SDA) runs."

Most RTA speedruns are done on easiest or fastest difficulty due to unexpected rng, more safety and it's also usually faster. TASes are done on hardest difficulty, because you can literally segment every frame, which is a huge advantage. Runs on SDA are mostly segmented, thus you can easily restart if you fail, so they are quite often played on hardest difficulty unless there's a big difference.

If you could deliver the same time on Hard as on Easy, then such run would be better for sure. If not, it's pointless.

Pomorskie, Poland

I understand the concept of playing on harder difficulty (and running) for the sake of challenge, but in case of Fallout it all goes down to rng. In single segment, which I believe you should level up in Cathedral for safety reasons, it hardly plays any role at all. It means for a runner to keep on trying over and over again just because you are screwed by bad rng. In segmented, I don't think it would be possible to skip levelling on hard difficulty, but if difficulty changes only one thing then it's not even fun to run.

Valhalla

Exactly! The challenge is the key word. Tho not just for the sake of it, but rather for a bigger achievement.

On single segment, I wouldn't go for hard mode, too much complications with randomness and that would surely if not kill, then at least delay the run making it inferior. Normal is hard enough, I guess... but then again, some hardcore runner player would disagree with me.

And it's not possible to skip upping the skills on hard. Kind of tested this the hard way..

Yeah, there is one change that votes yes for the easy mode, and that is exactly skipping the skill change (nice move, BTW), and it saves a couple of seconds. Still, IMO hard run with upping vs easy run without upping is easy to judge. That's why probably two runs would be sensible. Both segmented, for starters..

Pomorskie, Poland

I might try to do that then. I only hope it won't take me too much tries.

Valhalla

Give up, I'm doing it already ; )))

Just kidding, go ahead, competition is welcome : )

Pomorskie, Poland

I agree that there shouldn't be a separate category here, it should only be done for fun. As fun is trying to do one segment couple hundred times.

Valhalla

Well, I beg to disagree since the runner faces bigger challenge and it's harder to achieve the same (or even a little worse) time - sounds simple to me. But that's OK, we all have different views.

About the category - I remember that you said if enough people will be interested, there will be a category for it - so far we've got Ewil, me and Fexen interested, tho only Fexen made his input... but in the All Good endings we have, so far, two inputs.

Czech Republic

I'm interested in a segmented category, not Hard difficulty :)

Valhalla

That's what I meant Ewil :)

Valhalla

Thank you DrTChops and mods : )

Now in the process it turned out how "easy" and "possible" it is to make just one of several fragments/segments, but... let's go! (besides, I've got only myself to blame ; D) Things are getting interesting, allright! (as Loxley would say, "Oooh, a little back and forth... I like it!")

Meanwhile, I told Mr. Barrowsman to drop by over here : )

Pomorskie, Poland

I've just uploaded savegames which I used in my segmented run to the resource section. Good for trying out new stuff and practicing.

Valhalla

Great, I'm sure people will find it useful. Thanks!

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