Milliseconds
5 years ago
Germany

Speedrun.com should show milliseconds for this game. Now two people have a time of 59:59 and it claimed that the second one was another new world record, even though it was a few milliseconds slower. And some other categories probably also have very close times.

Cuberstache, Kramkraft and 2 others like this
California, USA

I second this, I think milliseconds should be included in the event of a tie for a top 10 time.

Kramkraft, Jack_R and 2 others like this
Italy

Mods can add milliseconds it's very easy to do, there's no need to re-time top 10 time but I think it would be at least necessary to re-time sub hour runs, since we are reaching perfection. Not much more time to save.

Kramkraft, Jack_R, and natgoesfast like this
New Jersey, USA

One of the major problems are is that currently, verifiers cannot retime runs-they can only verify and reject them. They'd have to go to a mod every time the milliseconds are wrong, or if they just decide to do this for WR runs, every time someone decides to use milliseconds. As you can imagine, it's very tedious and people are trying to find a way around this before putting it into place.

Cuberstache, Kramkraft and 2 others like this
Germany

It's not the exact same time. And the smallest possible difference between two non-equal times is a 60th of a second

Cursed1701, TripleM2587 and 5 others like this
United States

I don’t run the game but I feel like if they both got a 59:59 that they BOTH deserve WR. At that point it doesn’t matter who was fasted because they both achieved something incredible

Kramkraft, JoshTGR and 2 others like this
Germany

It's not about achieving something good. If someone figures out a way to credits warp and beats the game in 10 minutes, then a 50 minute run without that would still be amazing, but not the world record. Currently the site claims that both are exactly tied, which is simply false.

Cursed1701, Cape90 and 4 others like this
Maryland, USA

Ticking the ms box allows everyone to submit with ms, which we have implemented for nearly 2 weeks previously for ties in the top 10. These ties were being constantly untied while the influx of ms submitted runs would increase daily, getting slightly tedious at the time. I do not see an issue with having retimes at the top of the description of tied runs, it seems pretty visible to me, you hover over the run and its there. Better than having no ms at all imo.

Edit: Reevaluating decision with mod team and getting 2nd takes from everyone.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
IwerSonsch likes this
New York, USA

Depends on what the community wants the game to be. There are many games that settle for ties while many games that include ms. To me it seems arbitrary and there's not a solid argument for either case. Ultimately should be up to the top runners/mods imo.

Germany

You'd probably not use milliseconds for top 10 ties, but for all runs below a certain cutoff like 1:00:20 or 1:00:00. That would lower the number of unnecessary changes over time

Cuberstache and Cursed1701 like this