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1 year ago

I'm putting this here mostly out of posterity (not personally planning on running the game... Not right now anyways but maybe later). I haven't tested it yet myself, but apparently Cybermorph works fine in BigPEmu. Just checking to see if you'll be officiating it for runs.

EVIDENCE:

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Also unrelated to the topic but man this leaderboard needs a design. You should give me mod briefly so I can create a design for it, lol. Here's what I'm capable of when I'm on my A game for designs: https://www.speedrun.com/puggsy

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United States

Bumping this as I wonder the same thing

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Nevada, USA

Is there any documentation of its' accuracy out there anywhere? I'm very interested in allowing for emulator runs, and I would be happy to add an accurate emulator to the allowed ways to play this. If it isn't accurate, the only way I would endorse adding this, would be a separate category.

I would love to hear the community's thoughts! Should we allow this emulator? Should we make it a separate category? Are there any existing runs of Cybermorph out there using this emulator (or any others?)

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Nevada, USA

(Also I apologize for not responding before, but I won't be adding any mods to the boards atm as there's only 2 runs ever submitted for this game, which is also the reason I haven't spent the time to design the board.)

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Hey there, I forgot I posted this comment. I admit I am not an expert of Jaguar stuff, but the one thing I am aware of is that prior to BigPEmu showing up on the scene, Jaguar emulation was pretty crap. The developer seems to be accuracy-focused like many modern emulator projects but I feel this is something that'd require testing by those who actually know and have the Jaguar stuff to compare and contrast with.

EDIT: To clarify more, because BigPEmu is the first proper Jaguar emulator that isn't garbage/"proof of concept" tier stuff, there is probably much that isn't known for the handful of Jaguar runners who would know the particulars of these games. I can only say that from when I played with it, BigPEmu seemed to be pretty spot on with games, even being accurate to original era performance by default, though they have options to speed games up too (obviously not speedrun kosher).

I only ever played on a real Jaguar once though at a convention, over a decade ago, so that is why I insist on Jaguar runners taking the initiative to test this. From my brief testing, it seemed that, as an example, Jaguar Rayman could potentially be faster than the other versions but because of the Jaguar's obscurity not many runners have touched it from what I saw. That's just an example I'm remembering from when I first posted this.

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Québec

I haven't tested this game in particular, but BigPEmu runs some of the games I've tested really well, I think you should test it yourself @JSR_ knowing how the real hardware behaves, but IMO it's a really good emulator (BigPEmu)

Nevada, USA

I no longer have my Jaguar to test it alongside of, but I might be able to try it out. I'd prefer it if someone with access to one could do so, but I can take a look.

That said, has anyone attempted a run on emulator? If it's accurate, and someone performs a run on it, I can analyze it more carefully. At the very least, if there's interest in allowing that platform, and it turns out to be inaccurate, we can make a separate leaderboard. But having a run to compare would make it extremely easy for me to test it out (loading times, lag, etc).

The absolute best way would be to get someone that knows the in-and-outs of the emulator's behavior (which is way above my paygrade lol) but again, even if it's inaccurate enough to warrant its' own separate board, if there's a run out there, I want to represent it.

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So according to RichWhitehouse, the creator of BigP, cybermorph is one of the best performing games on the emulator, as this was one of his test games when building the emulator. He goes over the intricacies in this video here, but the emulator is very accurate compared to original hardware.

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This is very promising! I'm reaching out to them for more details. Has anyone attempted a run on this emulator yet?

If anyone has, I can make a separate leaderboard now so they can be represented, and once I get a few more answers and make my determination that this is accurate and fair, I can combine the leaderboards :)

As soon as I hear back from them, I will make my judgment. If anyone has further info to assist me in this, I'm all ears! And thank you all for informing me about this, Jag emulation is very exciting to see!

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EDIT: Still waiting to hear back, but after watching the above video, I agree this might be an acceptable emulator to run on. Until further notice, if anyone wishes to try this, I suggest showing the "settings" menu before each attempt and/or after each reset to confirm the default settings for both the RISC and the M68K, as well as having fast forward disabled, Lockstep mode default, Pipeline emulation enabled, and blitter speed on default. In other words, all default modes. I would also show this at the end of any completed PB run for verifications' sake.

TL;DR before you begin an attempt, show a clean reset, and then show that all the settings are in their default states and ensure this is all in your video. I also recommend showing this at the end as well.

I'm hoping for clarification on the OP Priority scaling and the random start cycle options before I make any permanent and final decisions

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