Heaven Save Glitch
7 years ago
South Carolina, USA

Found a glitch dealing with save files and the input computers for the Heaven ending. Step 1: make a save file before hitting the first button. Step 2: At any time, you can load that save file and hit the first button again to make the input computer number increase by one.

What does this mean? It means that any of the inputs can be replaced with the first input. That means that the 3rd input (the one outside the boss' office) can be replaced with the first one (in the second office), effectively cutting down the time for getting inputs by 8-15 seconds.

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Now, the question is, should this be allowed in the IL, or should the "No Save" rule still apply? If allowed, I would suggest starting timer at first input (pausing or moving).

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Mossy likes this
South Carolina, USA

I await your new 21 w/saves route, Mossy. Should be good :) Might even be able to make it faster by saving right at the computer. Not actually sure tho.

OmegaFallon likes this
United States

Yeah, doing quick math in my head, this takes a minute or so off of the route. You can save in front of it, hit it once, reload the save three more times, and then begin game again and hit Stanley's computer.

ZZKer likes this
United States

Also, on whether or not we should be allowed to use this in the IL, I don't see why not. The reason being is that the general rule for all ILs might as well be "you can only use saves created during the run," since this would be the only one that benefits from it.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
South Carolina, USA

Well, on the other hand, keeping the rules as is would make more run divercity. I don't want to make some big rule changes without first consulting plumato. Looking at how we have it set up, though, I would say making a separate IL run "w/saves" just for that category (similar to how we have "Half Life 2" as a category for ILs in the HL2 mod) is a better way to place it.

OmegaFallon likes this
New Jersey, USA

I added separated the Heaven IL into two subcategories based on use of the save glitch.

South Carolina, USA

I just said I didn't want to do anything without first consulting plumato. Love the enthusiasm, but when it comes to new categories and stuff, having a bigger discussion is important, especially with someone or multiple people who have been in the community much longer than either of us. I'll edit the rules accordingly since it's already made, but in the future please refrain from making new categories without first consulting the senior mod (in this case Plumato).

New Jersey, USA

oh sorry, I thought you meant that contacting Plumato was only necessary if we were changing the rules, not adding subcategories, my mistake.

South Carolina, USA

It's fine. This should be an ok category to add, but sometimes getting a larger community feedback is important.

I'll make a run here in a bit and add it to the category to give an example of what the run will be like.

New Jersey, USA

SeemsGood

United States

In response to the run diversity thing, I don't really think we should only have one ending where there's a Save Feature Used category, but at the same time, the others wouldn't need it at all. It's very awkward, and I'd personally have one section for it.

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