Hello:
After watching an incredible run of Red I discovered something important. He went back to the past in the same run, and Technodrome didn't change cave.
So that give me the idea, if we beat the game and continue playing (without poweroff or reset) will the Technodrome be in the same cave?
And that was right. In my run the Technodrome appeared in second cave, so I beat it the game. When you beat the game the Ultra credits appear again (after the adventures of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is concluded.). Then I press start in a random situation.
I went all the run normally, when I arrived Area 5, I went directly to cave numer 2, because I know the Technodrome will be there. And yes, it was there.
So what I am saying, is that if somebody gets Technodrome in the first cave. Don't power off or reset, continue playing to have again the Technodrome in the same cave. (until you finish to play in your day, then turn off your Nintendo).
Well hope somebody try this, and that It will help. Thanks for listening.
(update) Confirmed:
I have beaten the game 3 times in a row (no power off or reset after each beating of the game).
The 3 times the Technodrome was in the same cave (for my runs cave 2).
I went directly the 3 times to cave 2, and it was there the 3 times.
Hope somebody try it, to see. And hopes it helps for you.
Example: Imagine you get Technodrome in first cave, then beat the game. Then continue playing the game (never power off and never reset). And your Technodrome will be again in first cave and again.
Thanks for listening, please try it to see and hope it helps you all. Thanks again.
Wow; nice discovery! A question though: did you try to make a save state before starting the second run, then reset the emulator, and see if it works too? If you play on an emulator, of course.
I was playing in a real console.
But this has only one drawback.
When you beat the game press start before the Turtles appear (when they are showing their weapons and names). That's the only thing. Because if you wait that long, the game makes the same as a reset, and Technodrome will change again. That's the only thing so please press start before the Turtles appear with their weapons and names in that animation please. That's all.
I think it will be the same for emulator, but please somebody try that. I was playing in a real physical NES console.
I am interested to see if this is proven true. Good idea nesmaster, I honestly hope that you're on to something here.
Question: Did you game over and continue in any of your runs? I ask this because this has been known to place the technodrome in the last hole.
Thought: Even if this is proven true, I don't think it would be too beneficial (for fast speedruns at least) unless you were able to die out completely, end the run and start a new one, and have the technodrome location still be locked where you want it. I would need to end my runs within the first few levels and need to take an intentional game over rather than resetting the NES so if a complete death/continue moves the technodrome to the third hole as normal then not a very useful strat (although a very great and interesting find).
Second Thought: I don't capitalize "technodrome" due to the lack of respect that I now have for it.
No game over, no continues. Is what I have. I will test this more.
Yeah I never figured out that somebody could use the game over with this.
I will prove this more. The only drawback I founded so far is that you never go to the animation where the Turtles show weapons, attacks and names, because as you have tested before, if you do that, the game goes back to title screen, and I think the game thinks you are reseting the game.
So I had 3 runs in a row, I started start button at random time, but during the screen logo of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. Only until my 4 run i let it go and go as far as the animation of the Turtles, and then Technodrome changed.
BUt as you said. Technodrome always deserves our best respect no matter what. But is a good possibilitie. I would test this more if I can. And see how much runs in a row I can have without problem. Hope something good comes from this. Thanks to all.
(final update)Sorry guys:
Please change the title to theory.
I play it again by this, i did it everything correctly and Technodrome Guardian once again changed location. I think it was a good theory and a good try.
Because I beat it the game 3 times in a row another time, and the 3 times was in different position. I believed this because in my last play, was 3 times in a row same position and I pressed start at random time in the Title screen. And I think as the High Score doesn't change, and as Red that went back to the past in a run an technodrome didn't change. I though the game will think that some how was the same run, and the game goes normally.
If somebody get different results, welcome that.
So the only safe method to have your Technodrome is like Skunky say once, new strat "just press start button at random time". Or the other strar, everybody press start the time everybody feels confortable, everyone could have different timing for the start at any time, and if you get the Technodrome and on, think at it is a bonus of the game (as Skunky said too).
Sorry guys again, but I hope it was a nice try.
