Is the legendary time of 4:54 possible?
4 years ago
Chad

Yes, With the Humanly possible strats Currently Found (As of 6/14/19) We Could do 1-1 Fpg, 1-2g, 4-1 Fpg, Blazit ( Replacing Tas-2 With Extra 8-2 Framerule save) 8-1 Fpg, Extra 8-2FR, 8-3 Fpg, And a EXTREMELY solid 8-4

I know 8-2 hasnt been done by a human yet, But i do Belive it is Just barely doable enough To at least Make a spliced run

raymondamantius likes this
Michigan, USA

@kuribro yeah 8-2 fr save is incredibly hard but at least the inputs are slightly more straightforward.

Québec

So to get 4:54 you have to perform almost pixel perfect frame perfect glitch in every levels. Jeez

Germany

4:54 is not the perfect time as long as PAL isn't seperated.

@i_o_l That's exactly what I used to think, and I have a forum post about separating PAL and NTSC With PAL, you could potentially go all the way down to 4:51 maybe, but by that time I'm sure the mods would decide to separate the versions.

But hey, if the mods could get together and decide whether the versions will stay together or not, that would be nice so we all know for sure.

Chad

Isnt FFPG At the moment PAL only? Also We Still have to Consider The game Running At 5/6 the speed (50Fps/Hz)

Lul_ecks_dee likes this
Oklahoma, USA

Can you do full FPG on the PAL version of the game without L+R? (legally)

Or does it require some sort of illegal tomfoolery?

Lul_ecks_dee likes this

@Darpey you can do full fpg without l+r

Lul_ecks_dee likes this
New Hampshire, USA

I think he means if you can do it without pressing left or right, but I might be mistaken. But if I'm not, I don't know.

Lul_ecks_dee likes this
Chad

We Need to get happylee in here

Yes, it is possible to get full FPG without L+R, KingOf_JonnyBoy found a setup over a year ago I think (it's extremely hard, in the realm of 4-2 clip difficulty) @kuribro 4:51 in PAL is considering running the game at 50 FPS. If it was run at 60 FPS, then you get this beautiful witchcraft

New Hampshire, USA

But the question is, will it save a framerule?

@RyanGames that is done with left + right, which is not allowed in the rules.

Michigan, USA

@owen5560 RTA rules TAS is 4:54.28

@Mars02 Very much so

Oklahoma, USA

If you can legally do full fpg then why aren't the big names in this game grinding PAL for wr? Cant you get 453 or somewhere in that range with ffpg on every level? I assume it's because there's currently no rta setup?

Québec

If we can find a setup for full fpg I think PAL and NTSC will be different categories. There is too much time save with full fpg

mouseman likes this

@wolfattack There is a setup, but it's really hard @Darpey Because it's like doing 4X 4-2 clips in a row (not the blazit, the lightning clip) and doing everything else. I wouldn't imagine Kosmic would be willing to do 4 4-2 clips in the same run, let alone once ever. But maybe someone will. I would be if I could know with confidence that the PAL and NTSC versions will stay together.

Darpey likes this
London, England

@Mellon7373 nice tas, if its legit play with a controller cam and on the original console, we will be happy to see a human getting an official 4:54

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