Minimum Captures Update
4 years ago
Maryland, USA

The mods and I have come to a conclusion. We have decided to archive all current PBs of those who had submitted runs to 14, 11, and 10 Captures. The board is now divided into two categories: 9 Captures - As of creating this post, this is the TRUE minimum captures required in order to beat the game. 13 Captures - The most accessible/speedrunner friendly. (1P, no 1.0 tricks)

The archived runs and leaderboard can be found here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cwEBDFlWZFwFDzgc_ECdpBesH3SirWq7kuboDo8J048/edit#gid=0 Submission form: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeiKEbrv_f9iFmntlkAWB_DKrtMixDmCTNpZvEjRfYfGsupfg/viewform

If you wish to talk about this change, I HIGHLY recommend you to direct yourself to our discord server, we have a text channel dedicated to leaderboard discussion, this is better than posting "but why...?" type comments on this forum page, it does not clutter other peoples notifications.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
natgoesfast, Dry_Yoshi and 15 others like this
Maryland, USA

With the recent discoveries leading to only just 3 captures remaining (as far as we know all 3 are impossible to remove in vanilla Odyssey), The CE Mods and the majority of active community members (who had done Minimum Captures or planned to) in the #rule-discussions chat on the discord server have decided to remove the Minimum Captures category from the leaderboard altogether. The 2 Pokio Skip 13 Captures runs and single 9 Captures run are now added to the leaderboard sheet.

A common argument I've seen throughout this entire discussion in #rule-discussions on the discord server, "Because it can be done as a speedrun (and in some cases is "easy" like 14 captures (arbitrary in itself vs. the actual true Minimum 3 Captures as of this post)) it should have "official" subcategories on speedrun.com". You can make a category as "official" as you wish without the need of a website, a sheet is fine and even allows more options, this category already gets plenty of exposure from the few youtubers/streamers willing to try this challenge, who of which would still do this regardless of the leaderboard existing or not. There has been a decline in submitted Minimum Captures runs recently, we see the obvious popularity, but where are the runs? Is anyone else besides those few youtubers/streamers the only ones who really care enough to try this? In that case, if they cared enough to submit, why would we have a board just for one single user, because it was possibly bound to happen with 3 Captures. Our census is that with these last few Captures, this has truly become just another challenge, that of course could be done as a speedrun, but does not inquire a leaderboard on this site anymore. People do Damageless for the satisfaction of beating it, not a placement, this is now the same for Minimum Captures. This has gotten super arbitrary with every new find within the last month just for people to say "well X Captures could work as a subcategory" in order to find "viable RTA formats of "Minimum" Captures". A leaderboard on this site is no longer needed, please seek the leaderboard sheet instead and submit your runs there if you wish.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
natgoesfast, Gaiaphage and 2 others like this