CONSOLES/PC ALL MIXED ?? [UNFAIR]
4 years ago
Pará, Brazil

Well one point of view I have on this leaderboard is that it's very disorganized;

As the example: There are some categories that have "Normal / PRO and easy / amateur" and other categories have separate difficulties, very strange that;

I don't know if the moderators themselves have a view of this;

But another point I think of the moderators is that don't worry if the runner beat your time on a different version and faster than yours, you still consider yourself 1st on the PS4 version. An example of this: in the steam version, most in 1st place play at 60 fps but a user named "zooyoo0r" he is in 28th place he ran at 30fps and this is the best time in this version beyond 60fps so so you can not run the game at 60fps will compete with this user (the better your PC the better your time, basically this is the reasoning I have)

I made a picture of what this learedboard should look like

https://imgur.com/SFjtNvD

Another point of moderators is "cheat%" not all versions have the advantage of using some cheat to make this category so they should separate only those versions that have the possibility of using cheats PS2-GCN-PC (steam) -PC07

https://imgur.com/rGF8pGi

Brazil

Esta leaderboard opera com o intúito de distinguir categorias com base nos critérios que constituem a tradicionalidade do speedrun, basicamente, separar categorias "memes" (ex.: Cheat%, Knife Only, etc.) de categorias moralmente superiores (New Game Pro, New Game+ Normal, etc.). Quanto as categorias presentes nessa board, foram definidas individualmente com subcategorias que atendem as necessidades básicas. Dito isso, este ambiente foi idealizado como um 'database' para runs diversas, as quais não exaltam os conceitos de competitividade ou desenvolvimento incisivo. Em poucas palavras, esta board é apenas um meme e suas categorias e organização (de forma geral) não devem ser levadas á sério, a real integridade sendo apenas compreendida e necessária nas leaderboards "originais" (Console e PC). Além do mais, caso seja necessária uma informação específica, como verificar uma run feita em um console X ou versão Y, basta utilizar os filtros que o site disponibiliza por padrão em todas as leaderboards.

Edited by the author 4 years ago
WagnerBrasil likes this
Pará, Brazil

I created an image of how categories should be organized if some moderators make a decision (done in Excel).

https://imgur.com/F42OWS5

Edited by the author 4 years ago
United States

I think the leaderboards are set up pretty well for the category extensions. Separating PC and console would be kinda dumb. It would make the current leaderboard way more cluttered and making a whole new leaderboard to separate pc and console doesnt make sense because there's not enough runners. Remember, these are all considered Meme runs. No need to get overly competitive on all these weird spin-off categories, and with how many categories there are i dont see a way they could alter the boards to make them look much better. I honestly dont think any of theses categories were meant to be taken seriously. They're just meme runs lol

Carpenter, Windmill and 3 others like this
Pará, Brazil

Interesting, thanks for the information @Fields_Of_Red

Edited by the author 4 years ago
BlueRunsFast likes this
New Jersey, USA

Fields got it right, don't take CE to seriously. I actually did have a lot more stuff separated at first but I changed it because it was ridiculous how many subcategories there were that way. The intent of how I have it set up now is to consolidate so that we can actually see the few runs that there are on one page. From there, if you want to see what the times are for specific versions, you can use the filters (believe it or not that's how the main RE4 board used to be set up years ago monkaS) I combined some difficulties for the same reason and you can still see the difficulty that was used in its own column. Also to clarify the reason Normal and Pro are not merged for NG categories like I did for NG+ is just so that Pro doesn't become obsolete since it's the most popular difficulty for NG. I did keep sub categories for the segmented categories since those are runs that really push what is possible on each version and I plan to submit a bunch of segmented runs that have been done, so we'll actually have something to look at for most of those versions when I do that. In summary though, in general category extensions should not be viewed as something competitive, these boards are just a place to put up runs for lots of the fun miscellaneous stuff you can do in RE4 and as such, I've tried to organize it in a way focused on actually seeing a list of the runs and what has been done rather than putting focus on comparing them in a competitive sense.

@Kromer feel free to translate if you want, your call =P

Edited by the author 4 years ago
Windmill, WagnerBrasil, and Kromer like this
Brazil

Apenas traduzindo o texto do @Carpenter

[quote=Carpenter] Fields entendeu certo, não leve CE (Category Extentions) á sério. Na verdade eu tinha muitas coisas (idéias) separadas de início, mas mudei por ser ridículo o tanto de subcategorias que ali haviam. O intúito de como eu configurei agora é para consolidar, então poderemos ver uma run ou outra em uma página. A partir disso, se você quiser ver quais os tempos para versões específicas, você pode utilizar os filtros (acredite ou não, era dessa forma que as leaderboards de RE4 eram configuradas á anos atrás monkaS). Eu combinei algumas dificuldades pelo mesmo motivo e você ainda pode ver a dificuldade que foi jogada na própria coluna. E também para esclarecer o motivo que as dificuldades Normal e Pro não estão unidas em categorias NG como eu fiz em categorias NG+, é só para que a dificuldade Pro não se torne obsoleta, por conta de ser a dificuldade mais popular para NG. Eu mantive as subcategorias para as categorias segmentadas por conta de que elas realmente empurram o que é possível para cada versão e eu pretendo enviar algumas runs que eu fiz, então teremos algo á observar na maioria das versões quando eu fizer isso. Resumindo, de forma geral, as Extensões de Categorias não devem ser vistas como algo competitivo, é apenas um lugar para colocar runs de muitas coisas divertidas e diversas que podem ser feitas no RE4, eu tentei organizar de uma forma que exibisse uma lista e o que foi feito para ela, em vez de manter o foco na comparação em sentido competitivo.

@Kromer sinta-se livre para traduzir se quiser =P [/quote]

Thinking about it now, all of this is basically what i've already told them lol

Edited by the author 4 years ago
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