space%
5 years ago
North Carolina, USA

space% should be a thing because people are getting bored of glitchless

there are already 3 major skips for it:

also furniture skip (which is definitely a lot easier) could be faster than the car skip and maybe even the box skip

Slovenia

Was another thread for this necessary?

This reply will be more or less the same as the one I gave to Sen in the thread "Could a category extension of Getting Over It be a thing?" so I'll keep it brief. You personally showed interest in running space% (Even though you don't have a single space% run on your channel), so have a handful of people in the other thread, but in reality it's hard to gauge the interest in such a category when interest seems to pick up quickly, then dies off as fast as it appeared when it doesn't get added to the board. If the run was a fun thing to do and was worth running, more people would be running it. Right now this comes off as a niche that is momentarily brought to life every once in a while, then dropped again in favour of just running the game normally.

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Brazil

I agree with Apok here, I don't think it's worth adding another category that will just die off, snake% seems more versatile as its something you can decide to run as soon as you get to bucket on a normal run. I don't think the effort of turning on space gravity is worth doing Space% runs enough to add a whole new category. For now, just post your space% runs on discord and we can keep track of leaderboards/WR there.

North Carolina, USA

yeah i mainly posted this because i know there are a lot of people on here who arent on the discord who missed all of the space% talk. But yeah ive just been having a lot of fun with it lately and i guess i spoke too early but the reason i dont think that this will die is because its really similar to glitchless but more fun in a way so im thinking that the times are gonna just keep dropping (but obviously its gonna die some day)

No.

I've tried the skips and they don't work, you don't fall fast enough to be able to go fast, especially when speedrunning, and there is no particular gravity stated on this post, because then people could just set their gravity so the second they start the game they beat it by having 300 gravity, so just no.

Ontario, Canada

I feel like if the category was official then more people would find it worth a try. I would find it a lot more intriguing

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United States

adding on to what kiaokra said, more people will try it if there is a new official category for it. most people are not so active that they are eager to jump over all the forums discussions- the primary function for many is just to verify speedruns and use the leaderboard. nobody will look through all of these back-and-forths and say "man, i should really use space gravity" or "man, i should really get the easter egg as fast as i can." the two primary runs are unarguably glitchless and snake. glitchless because it is the default run, and snake, because it is the ONLY OTHER leaderboard category. why is it there? because there was a movement for it that got passed. there is currently a movement to add another category. it is inevitable that categories without official leaderboards and their own tab will never become widespread in popularity and regular. not everybody is moving towards the exact same goal for a change, but one thing is clear from the threads and the youtube videos and the new strategies and everything popping up- THE COMMUNITY WANTS SOMETHING NEW! one person referenced that goiwbf is a "slowly dying community" and the wording of the sentence made it seem that they were saying, "who cares? its not gonna be big in 2 years anyway." if DONT want the community to wither up and die like so many classic game communities have, we need to ADD SOMETHING NEW. people get bored of the same old stuff for so long with no change. and also, as a response to apok's shutdown:

"So keep in mind that a lot of people like to express interest in something that they might later not follow up on, as shown by snake%, and that we've had only around 10 people show interest in running a category based around getting to the easter egg in the entire lifetime of the game. Some of those people probably aren't even running the game anymore" YES, there were only ten posts supporting this, opposed to more for snake. but as it is widely agreed, and you said yourself, the community is shrinking. and as i previously stated, not everybody is going to post on the forum about it! most people are going to sit still and hope that a change occurs.

"I don't appreciate you implying the mods have not responded already" if you want to see what people want, make another vote! and dont make it specific so it gets shut down quickly- make a vote about a change or new official speedruns, and see what people want. follow up by adding something new. verifying our runs is a great service, and thank you guys, but you are the only people who can change something! none of us have power- our only power is communicating with you! you are shutting is down without a second thought or even looking deeper into the issue and seeing what should be done

"You don't need a leaderboard for that" We do. it should be obvious that we do, and if not, just read above."

"Even if you do, it doesn't need to be on speedrun.com yet. Maybe if you run it, more people see it, someone even keeps track of a couple times, you can show that I'm wrong and, actually, people do want to run it. After all, that's what we did for the base game before we had a speedrun.com page." Wasnt it sooooo much better to have an official page for the speedrunning? or did you just love it when all the runs were unofficial and unorganized? people HAVE been keeping track- but theres a lot less reason to upload a video titled "GOIWBF Speedrun Egg% or Space%" when it will just sit there. maybe youll put it in the discord, get a few claps, "i counted six chokes in total there lol" and life will move on. OR, use an official leaderboard.

Mods, ask this to yourselves: "Why am I shutting this down? Why have I been replaced by a concrete wall that stand in the middle of what was once a busy road? I have a crane so I can tear down this wall, but I just don't really want to go through that trouble."

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Northern Ireland

I'm not sure if it's possible to make a viable leaderboard for space % It looks fun but is there really any way to 100% prove that you are using the same gravity, I've never used any mods myself outside of the restart mod. What's stopping someone from using a slightly more advantageous gravity % ? That's my only thoughts behind it really, If you could literally guarantee that people were using the same modifier then sure go for it I don't see why it can't be a thing but I don't know enough about it to know if you can guarantee that.

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United States

That actually brings up at good point- that some categories could have those sorts of problems. Maybe I should have started a new thread for this, but what I wrote was not just about space%. The goal is to add a third or even a fourth tab on the official leaderboard. We need new things and change to keep going. Imagine if Mario was a stand-alone game. "Oh yeaaaah, I remember that game!! Me and my friend Phil played that together in Junior High! Yeah, I guess that was fun. Man, that's nostalgia." What I'm saying is that there needs to be something new to keep goiwbf alive and FUN-isnt that what gaming Is about? If Mario never got any new games, sure it would have been fun for a while, but It would never have become the undying series it is now. Since we wont have endless sequels, and this is a speedrunning game, the closest we can get is new categories.

And to add on to what you said before apok, I would argue that an egg run is versatile. If you screw up on bucket you do snake, but if you screw up on launch or space you do egg.

Edit: and to @MonsterDobbs, you not figuring out how to efficiently run it does not mean that the RUN sucks. And the skips do work, there Is video evidence

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btix, kiaokra and 2 others like this
North Carolina, USA

@MonsterDobbs the standard gravity is -10 by the way

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