It wouldn't really work because addons are updated all the time.

They're not updated often, but they are indeed sometimes updated, the functionality to do so exists. So it's a valid concern.

Plus, most add-ons levels are bad (some former official tracks and a few non-official tracks are decent, but it's a minority). Allowing some add-ons level in the leaderboard would be an argument in favor of adding others ; adding only some would be a difficult position to hold.

And then, there are already way enough ILs. I and @Alistair_Findlay did a time for most normal direction ILs, but you can't say that there are a lot of IL submissions. Dispersing them in more tracks would be harmful, imho. I'm already bothered that the IL lists for a version contain former official tracks of previous versions, and that this will be growing and growing as new versions are released.

@Alayan @UbuntuJackson I asked about whether or not the STK 0.8.1 addon server is still open for submissions, and Arthur said "No it isn't, you'll have to distribute outside of the add-on server system".

(Something tells me that I am forgetting to write something here, but I don't know what. It happens to me all the time.)

Useful information, thanks. I'd still be against adding add-on tracks because we already have a lot of ILs (and this is bound to increase with new releases), but the stability argument is not valid anymore for 0.8.1, I guess.

It may have a crazy number of ILs, it doesn't make it a good idea to increase it more and more if it's not run by people. (And, yes, I'm absolutely biased : I don't want to have to run 20 more tracks)

Addons tracks are distributed through an official repository, but they remain unofficial. Should a game with a map/level editor include in ILs all (publicly-available) user creations ? Should SuperTux add ILs for any custom level somebody has done ? I'd say no.

Some game have high-quality user-done maps which offer a worthwhile challenge and have a big enough community to have people interested in them, but iirc it's common then to have a separate leaderboard for those.

I vote that addon ILs can be added, but only levels that exist in versions which are tracked on the leaderboard, so any levels from between 0.8.1 and 0.9.3

No custom user made tracks, as alayan says, this would be too many levels to track, potentially infinite.

(I don't know if I should vote) I think that they should be added, but anyone should be able to run them, whatever their save file status is. There would be no proof it is legitimate anyway, additionally it just seems like a fun ruiner and limits the number of available runs. We want anyone to be able to speedrun the agme.

But I understand if you want to invalidate my vote.

[quote]No custom user made tracks, as alayan says, this would be too many levels to track, potentially infinite.[/quote]

Do you mean, adding only addons tracks which are former official tracks removed in a more recent version of the game ?

This seems to be already more-or-less the case, with Bovine Barnyard, Shiny Suburbs, and some others which are in the IL list because they belong to one of the tracked versions, and so show up for all versions due to how the leaderboard works.

And there are already some runs for several of them.

While I wonder what the result may be in a few versions, I'm ok with this, as several of my aforementioned concerns don't apply to that kind of add-on track.

As far as I know, you can't select misc status per IL (the IL leaderboard lack options in general to match the fact that different versions have different available levels), it's a global thing. I guess it wouldn't hurt to remove the misc categorization for the time being, but there are only 3 IL runs for this version, so long term I expect it to move back to misc.

You can change this yourself, you have the mod power to do so and it has been agreed upon here :)