Stage Selection
7 years ago
Québec

Imho, allowing stage selection in "both quest any%" render it pointless... in no other game would you select the last stage/world, run it and called it a proper run (unless you're doing IL runs)... that would be like allowing it in "2nd quest any%"... effectively rendering the category pointless... or at the very least, misnamed!!

In both cases, if you want to allow stage selection, call it "1st quest + 2nd world8" or "2nd world8%" or something... i mean i'm sure anyone can see what's the spirit behind a category called "BOTH Quest" or "2nd QUEST"... ;D

Québec

If it was a feature in the original game, to select world 8 directly, would anyone run only 8-1 to 8-4 and call that "SMB Any%"... is it really beating the game? So why allowing it for 2nd quest? That's just my reasonning... stage selection is a feature in many games, but nobody would ever argue that you could run those games by selecting the last one and start your run from there, would they? So why is the SMB community even have this debate? ô.Ô

Besides this has nothing to do with my personnal feeling about the categories, and i don't see how its too late to make any change... if anything, this the right time to make changes, as this is still a new thing, and not that many runs have been submited yet...

Now, even tho the nomenclature would be a little off, adding sub categories (e.i.NES and AS) would easely resolve any issues since you wouldn't have to delete or rename any categories/runs... and if someone wants to run "Both Quest" like it should be, all they have to do is to submit it for "Star8-4" instead, under the NES tab, or they could do like i_o_l and run it on AS version from which the name come from for this one if i undertsand correctly... this way, all the memesters win and are happy, and that's w/o saying how some of those memes could be fun and challenging to try in the AS version as well, like the walkathon, as its seems to me its far easier to wall jump in AS (idk, is it? maybe its just an impression)!!

But then again, that's just my humble opinion/suggestion, i'm just really glad you guys manage to put these leaderboards together so that some runs like pacifist, blindfolded, or simply 2nd quest could have a spotlight and a place in the community... ;D

Ukraine

So more text and no reaction after 6 months? I'm also was thinking will be intresting to get any% +second quset in 1 run, probably more intresting then both quests, but if you start in 1-1 you can take mashroom and fire flower, which is very hard adn unsuccesful in world 8

Germany

Why can you use stage selection in one run and not the other? Because you only use it after you have already unlocked it. You can't just do stage select to world 8 and submit that as any%, because you're starting from an already altered gamestate without including it in your timing - not so in Both Quests.

And regarding a general NES/SNES subcategory tab: That would literally double the number of categories and most SNES ones would stay empty or only have very bad runs, because the version is really unpopular. Any% SNES has 1/9 the runs of Any% NES. Now divide the average number of players per category in this game by 9 and you see the problem.

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