Low% Rule Change?
7 years ago
United States

Recently, I've been wondering if the Low% ruleset should be changed to not allow Yoshi for the 1-3 Secret Exit. The basis for Low% is to complete the game with as few upgrades as possible. Using a koopa shell, you can jump up to the secret exit without ever needing Yoshi. While this is quite harder and slightly slower, I have a few reasons I think it should be changed.

Firstly, again, the basis is to complete it with the fewest upgrades. It is very possible to take the exit without using Yoshi. Second, if done properly, it shouldn't be more than 5 seconds slower than using Yoshi, if not less. I don't believe the World Record is optimized enough for that to matter. And finally, the difficulty shouldn't matter. I hope that most players taking the category seriously should understand that it may be hard to complete every level with such a restriction. In SMW, one of the strats for star world requires a crazy shell movement to complete, why shouldn't this game?

One additional note: All current times can stay, as the new movement shouldn't make achieving a better time much more difficult.

Thank you for reading.

Edit: My statement about Super Mario World could be misinterpreted. I don't want to make the category harder to be harder. Just that we can do it without Yoshi, so why don't we?

aek, Frikkinfriks14, and Gix01 like this
Spain

That's a wonderful idea (not undertale reference Kappa ) and i think it should be changed too, i mean, the low % rules are simple: not getting a simple upgrade, you need one to get a secret exit? Well, you have two options: 1, not taking the secret exit. 2, imagination, get to the secret exit as you can.

So, I agree (if you are so lazy to read all of the above entirely)

Gaming_64 likes this
England

I would have to disagree due to the fact that using Yoshi doesn't gain anything including points and coins. Also, this doesn't alter Mario and since he can't use any powerups, I wouldn't count Yoshi as one. Finally that would force all runs on the leaderboard to vanish and either be re-done or not at all. It would stupid tbh to change such a minor thing for a big, bad outcome

Minnesota, USA

I agree that it should be changed

Texas, USA

I agree with this proposed change. Allowing Yoshi, a game mechanic which gives Mario an extra hit and additional capabilities like any traditional power-up, for a jump which can clearly be executed without him seems silly to me. I also agree that already existing times should stay on the board - clearing the board to accommodate one minor time loss seems to be an overreaction at best, and invalidating times on the basis of a then-nonexistent rule is even sketchier.

Granolant, aek, and Gix01 like this
Hampshire, England

yeah, i agree with this change, i think it would make more sense as yoshi is only allowed there, and it just seemed forced and out of place, considering he isnt allowed to be used ever again. I would like for this rule to be put into place. thats my view anyway lol

Massachusetts, USA

I agree with the low% change. I feel like yoshi is an added extra powerup, and he shouldn't be allowed in a category entirely based on not collecting any powerups. Also, "No yoshi except secret exit in 1-3" looks bad for the category in general on the rules, and makes it look more like a strange misc. category, instead of a main category... which reminds me... MAKE LOW% A MAIN CATEGORY AGAIN! OpieOP

Granolant likes this
Wales

Moved it back! Not sure about the yoshi thing.. maybe we should have a vote on it?

Massachusetts, USA

Here is a straw poll, if this is how it will be settled http://strawpoll.me/7356496

ANSIA likes this
Ohio, USA

Are there any videos of the turtle shell technique being done that I could watch? I sat for a while trying to figure out how to do it and I couldn't. I feel stupid having to ask, but I'm fairly new at running this game, so I'm hoping it wouldn't be too much to ask someone to post a link/make a video showing the technique said.

United States

Look at the any% WR; he uses the Propeller Cap to reach the top.

Massachusetts, USA

In low%, the general goal is to not use any powerups...

Here is a video of the 1-3 shelljump strat, courtesy of obnoxious

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Texas, USA
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England

Fuck off. It's impossible. I wanna die

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