Bug Limit, Great Fairy Rewards
8 years ago
New York, USA

I realize that we already have NWW in the miscellaneous Category but I was wondering if we can add bug limit and Great Fairy Rewards into the miscellaneous category. It will be interesting to see how these categories play with the ISOT nerf.

Ontario, Canada

We already have glitchless on the leaderboards which is bug limit, and if a bunch of people start showing interest to run "All Fairy Rewards" then it'll be added, but this is the first I've heard of this category being of interest in MM3D. Also we wouldn't want just one runner to run it (I assume you would), it would be a weird empty leaderboard for only one time with no one caring or even knowing that the category exists.

New York, USA

That is true that is kind of the state of glitchless is in right now and bug limit and glitchless are different considering things like long jumping and damage boost are allowed in bug limit, but not in glitchless. Long jumping creates some pretty neat shortcuts in MM 3D specifically. With Great Fairy Rewards I think it would be interesting because you are taking any percent with no warping to the end of the dungeon in the case of SHT and GBT and actually going through the game with a neat purpose, kind of like all masks I found that category cool.

Ontario, Canada

Bug Limit and glitchless are the same thing. Bug Limit is just what the Japanese communities call it since you literally can't properly define what a glitch is from a glitch isn't, the category is arbitrary for a reason. Take OoT for example, everytime you crouch stab it's technically a glitch since the developers didn't intend for you to store the last damage value you used and use it as a crouch stab, but you can't ban crouch stabs in a category, that's just absurd. Glitchless/Bug Limit is just the communities list of what they want banned in the category, the MM community is different from the MM3D community so we have different glitches banned.

New York, USA

Oh okay I was not aware of that.

Canada

Bug Limit is not the same thing as Glitchless in MM, It allows Long Jumps and Recoil Flips.

In MM3D, it would also allow stuff like Mountain Village Early, Early Great Bay, and Ikana Early via the goron jump only. Ham and I talked about this earlier.

Canada

If people show interest in it (like Ham, Ag0423, and I), then of course we can add it as a misc category.

New York, USA

Cool I was trying to explain that, thank you for making my point more clear.

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