Should Gadwin 1 be in 100%?
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Sweden

In general, I'd say it's up to the community as a whole. With the extreme grind required, I personally don't feel it should be required (since you're not intended to defeat him in a regular playthrough, and to me, 100% is a regular playthrough, just obtaining everything that's available to obtain). So unless you get something special by defeating him the first time that can't be obtained in any other way, I don't think it should be required.

I actually think you messaged me about it last month as well on Twitch, and I sent you a response on there as well. But yea, I personally don't feel it should be required, unless there's a reward that can't be acquired any other way.

Sweden

Time Gate I definitely agree on should be part of it (as it's part of the game, and something that was intend for you to be able to obtain). The same goes for the optional bosses in FF games, some of which can be ludicrously difficult, but they are designed to be that way, while still being possible to beat. Where as Gadwin isn't supposed to be beaten (at least not at the point when you first encounter him).

If I remember correctly, however, there's some optional dungeon in the game, but I can't remember what's in it.

England

Gadwin 1 absolutely should not be a requirement of 100%. He's not 'meant' to be beatable.

Here are Gadwin 1's stats:

Str: 999 Vit: 999 Wit: 45 Agi: 30

It's absolutely ridiculous to expect a player to fight against this. He's BARELY beatable in ReDux, and that's with higher player stats, his VIT reduced to 245, and greater access to debuffing attacks like Def-Loss having a greater effect. It's not uncommon for other games to forgo a specific objective in 100% simply because that objective is completely unreasonable, and this is Grandia's equivalent. I'm personally not even that happy about including Time Gate as a requirement as it is a pure grind that takes hours and adds nothing of value to the run, but it IS an obtainable spell, so I suppose it's technically arbitrary to claim it shouldn't be included just because it takes ages to do.

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