Leaderboards moderation requests thread
9 years ago
Valhalla

Not allowed according to you, or according to Galedog? The rules read like they were written in response to Galedog's run.

edit: yeah you don't even mention Galedog's run being fake in your op. I must be missing something.

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Valhalla

Yeah I don't know what was said on discord, or the finer details of the game but it seems unlikely that galedog would risk credibility with a dumb 16 second run, when he has real runs on the site. I'm just going off what looks like you were given mod, then proceeded the change things before outing galedog as a cheater.

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United States

I did a 30 minute session playing against jeff hardy in singles like gael did on hard. Not once was I able to stun him 3 times in a row and knock him out. Matter of fact, it always took me 4 stunners to knock out Jeff. The AI is too harsh to just body the computer like that on hard. But if there's a chance his run wasnt faked then he can resubmit and show us what difficulty he's playing on before the match. Im not saying what gael did was impossible but its highly unlikely that match was done on hard difficulty. Best i was able to do was a :36 under the old rules. Its just unlikely to hit 3 stunners in a row without any kind of counter/ reversal

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Valhalla

I'm just telling ya how it looks from an outsider looking in.

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United States

What can we do then Komrade so its equal for everyone?

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Valhalla

Provide proof that his run is cheated and isn't just the god run

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Valhalla

"I can't do it therefore he can't do it" isn't proof. Maybe ask galedog how he did it.

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United States

You can't just pull a run because you think it's cheated. You gotta prove it's cheated. Not think, prove. Ask him how he did it, see if you can possibly duplicate it or if even he can duplicate it in some fashion (not necessarily the whole fight but even a stun-lock or whatever he did in some lesser form).

I'm rather annoyed that you get into mod and start tearing down what was there and are pulling a run because you think it's cheated. Not exactly a way to make a good first impression.

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Victoria, Australia

Can i please be a moderator for this game https://www.speedrun.com/Nidhogg/full_game?

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Ohio, USA

I need help with the Parappa the Rapper 2 moderators. I've tried to reach them, but it seems one has been inactive for a year and the other just doesn't get on speedrun.com anymore. I need help finding someone to fix the rules and add more categories.

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Antarctica

You can edit your own run to correct the time if you submitted it incorrectly. Just click on the 3 dots to edit your run. It’ll have to be re-verified though.

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@PearlPalkiaGaming In addition to what Timmiluvs said...

"Please keep in mind that using this thread is a last resort, in case the current moderators are not responding or refusing your help without justification. You should always start by asking the Super mods of a game/series as they are also able to add mods. Best way to contact game mods is probably through Twitter for now. Also try the game forums, many users get notifications when threads are created for games they follow.

Moderator inactivity doesn't apply until around 3 weeks, depending on other circumstances, and it is expected that you try to contact them (exceptions may be made if they have been offline ~3+ months.) "

All three mods are active, ask them if there's changes you'd like to make that you can't do yourself.

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Germany

Hello, can I get Moderator for the game Anachronox ( https://www.speedrun.com/Anachronox ) ? The current Moderator has not been online in over a year and has apparently deleted all his social media (Including his run on the leaderboard and on youtube).

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United States

Might need help with the moderator of Where In The World Is Carmen Sandiego? (SNES). I've had two runs to verify for over 2 weeks, and last it says he was online here was at least a month ago. I tried some of his social media, but he hasn't responded and it seems he hasn't updated any social media in almost a year. I can be a moderator for this game if he doesn't respond.

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United States

I have to disagree with @Habreno saying this: "You can't just pull a run because you think it's cheated."

If the mod, whose judgement is supposed to be trusted by the community, thinks it's cheated, and the mod can elaborate why, then isn't it the mod's job to pull it?

Habreno's quote is precisely the attitude that the defenders of Todd Rogers and Billy Mitchell were taking. Unless you could absolutely PROVE that they didn't have those runs, and there's no real way to prove a negative, then you were libeling them to say they were frauds.

Mods have to exercise good judgement. If you don't trust them, find new mods.

Valhalla

uh the difference with todd rogers and billy mitchell is they couldn't prove the runs existed either.

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United States

There's a massive difference here. Basically all he's saying is "there's no way you can do X strategy therefore your run is obviously cheated" without doing any investigation of it. I find this very similar to the one we had a few weeks (maybe slightly longer) where a guy's run was accused of being cheated since it beat a known-to-be-suboptimal TAS and Kirkq had to get involved in that one because there's just no proof.

Note I'm saying no proof, not not enough proof. You're saying that all it would take is for a moderator to think a run is cheated to remove it, which is not how this site works. And besides, as Komrade said, there was zero video proof of Todd's 5.51 (it was accepted basically on Todd's word) and Mitchell's video was part of what was used to show it was done on MAME and not "console". The fact that Twin Galaxies took ages to act isn't relevant since that site operates differently, and once a score or run is up there it takes a hell of a lot more to show it's bad, since their verification level is intended to be far higher than here.

And finally: If the mod can show some proof on it I'll be more accepting of their judgment. But as the situation stands now all it is is someone who just got mod trying to throw out the old mod's run because he (the new mod) basically says so. I'm sure you can see why I'm far more skeptical on this than normal.

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United States

Those points were not directed towards you, SaiyanGaming420; it was towards PresJPolk's comment on the previous page. I thought it was dropped as well.

I'm glad you were able to get in touch with him, I'm glad you were reasonable and left the run on the boards, and I'm glad you were able to fix the situation. I at least hope you can see where my point was coming from; even if that was not your intent that is rather common.

Colorado, USA

Certain things happened, and I ended up recreating my account, but forgot It would get rid of my mod status on a game lol. I was a super mod for Metal Arms:Glitch in the System and the only super mod atm is inactive. not sure what proof I need to show that I actually was a super mod. but I should be able to provide anything.

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Valhalla

Not sure why you'd create a new account but having a run pending in that game probably helps.

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