Skip that's not allowed on No OoB
8 years ago
Finland

Here's a skip I found long time ago, pretty much after I found the theater skip. Video from september:

I had a talk about it with Romeo months ago, and we decided to not allow it, since it's kind of grey area. You get right at the edge of the unload zone to get the save trigger, and could easily go little bit too far and unload the map as you quit, which arguably is going OoB. Now I've seen first run trying to use it and that's exactly what happened.

There's also another sprinkler skip that's been known even longer. 24:50 on this run:

Same problem lies on that skip, so I never used it on a no OoB run.

England

clearly not out of bounds, you don't actually leave the game area if you don't run too far, i personally don't see the problem, it abides by the rules but i'm not a mod so my opinion means nothing. sprinkler one should obviously not be allowed.

Finland

How is the sprinklers skip any different? Instead of landing on a staircase you are not supposed to be on, you jump on top of the fire hitboxes, not going through the ceiling at any point. And I don't know about clearly not OoB. If we thought this was legit you would've seen it 4 months ago instead of now.

England

well if you thought it was that oob wouldn't you have mentioned it in things not to do during runs instead of hiding it away? but you let people waste their time just so you can go "no sorry i found this months ago its not allowed but i never told you"

same can be said about the hand rail on the theater skip, you are not supposed to be on that side of it yet you are. you are not suppose to be able to skip courtyard rooftop section but you can, you are not suppose to climb on the railings for superman, but you can.

also the sprinkler one is just stupid, your head clearly goes through the roof multiple times, you go through objects, its basically on the same level as the tunnel run in the sewers, you go through the ceiling. (which is kinda oob but you still allow it)

where exactly are the lines?? or are they gonna keep moving?

Finland

OK I'm sorry I never posted that skip, I guess I thought there's no reason since it's not going to be used on any run.

On the sprinkler skip head does not go through anything, the ceiling is very high on that room. At the end you see through above the doorway, but never actually go OoB. There are some pipes and stuff that have no hitboxes.

The line is when your hitbox goes OoB. That's why you can go through the hole on sewers running, your actual hitbox shrinks to the same height as it would be when you crawl as you enter the hole, never leaving the bounderies.

I understand the argument for this skip, but if it was allowed, should every run that goes too far even for split second be rejected?

England

ok fair enough finath you have made some very valid points and thanks for the clarification. you guys have already made a judgement call of this skip. seen as i'm the only one who seems to care about it you might as well leave it as it is.

of course every run should be rejected if the world unloads, that is oob is it not? even if its 1 second, like you wouldn't allow 1 glitch into glitchless no matter how small would you?

Finland

I actually tried the sprinkler skip again, and realized that at the very end the ceiling is lower indeed, and by jumping you go above it. It's possible to get through by crouching at the end, which is slower obviously.

Well yes unloading the level should not be allowed at all. I guess this skip could be allowed, but only if you managed to do it without unload. I mean technically the save point is still in bounds, if it was any further away from the edge there wouldn't even be a question. What do others think?

Do you want to be mod btw c0ffee, I can add you if you'd like? I mean if you want to do verifying.

England

thats what i was thinking finath it only goes oob if the person goes too far, apart from that it seem pretty clean to me.

thank you for the offer of mod, i'd really like that :D

One thing I was thinking about this skip last night, is with other out of bounds skips, your going through the OoB area. Like going through a solid wall, falling through a solid floor, those skips involve clipping out of the map and then clipping back in at a later area. This "trick" we are talking about is a little different, because your not getting to an unloaded courtyard and appearing on the other side, your just getting there.

Just a thought on my part, I'm still very new to outlast speedrunning and speedrunning in general, just thought I would share.

Finland

Well then, I guess it's allowed, WR up for grabs boys Kappa

Nevada, USA

So I know I'm late to the party on this, but I think it should be allowed (even though I see you guys are already allowing it). But I base my reasoning by comparing it to a similar No OoB game, Portal. There are many glitches that put you right on the cusp of going OoB, but are just enough in for it to count. As far as I'm concerned is as long as the map doesn't black out, you are in bounds. The second you take that next step the run dies and is no longer valid as No OoB.

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