Is pausing the game recorder allowed?
3 years ago
Philippines

Due to 2 mins pause restriction in particular game im playing, i paused my game and paused my OBS recorder so it wont be noticeable if I paused for too long.

I do this bcoz sometimes I have to do the nature's call.

But is it okay?

Edited by the author 3 years ago
France
xDrHellx
He/Him, It/Its
3 years ago

While it's "ok", i think it should be avoided, especially if it takes a while. The main issue, imo, is that for splicing runs (as in, editing vids and faking runs), that'd be a perfect occasion.

To be fair though, things happens ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Israel

I would say NO. You should never splice runs, unless it is allowed for very specific cases. Since most games here go by RTA (Real Time Attack) timing, which means the entire time it took to reach from start point to end point. That means a timer should not be stopped (if you are using one), and the OBS record should not be stopped as well. Doing so will turn any run to a spliced run, which won't abide by the rules for most games here.

Now, for your game: Does time in pauses count towards the total time of the run? (it should) if so, then you clearly shouldn't cut your video, since you can artificially cut any time from the pause. But then, I don't see the need of the restriction because if you take longer pause then your run will just be slower.

If time in pauses don't count towards the total time, then "technically" it won't matter if you splice the pause section regarding total time of the run, but then it goes against the rules of the game (because you did a long pause, and who knows, you can even take a break for days and no one will know) and the rules of the site (because of splicing).

How long is the expected time of the entire run? If it is hours, then I guess it would be expected from runners to be able to have breaks here and there.

Maybe you should discuss that issue with the moderators of the game.

Gaming_64 likes this
Philippines

The game most speedrunners finished in under an hour, but currently i can finish at under one and half, but things happens.

The pause dont count the time, and OBS can pause the recording, and be continued if u can play again.

But im not sure if the pausing can be noticeable in naked eye, or experts can see that?

United States

As a mod for the game you are talking about, i highly suggest you do not stop your recording. We require all footage for the runs provided nothing is to be cut out for any reason.

Lonne likes this
United States

Agreed. Splicing your run without notifying moderators (or just splicing runs at all) is not a good idea. It makes you very suspicious as a runner, since no one can tell whether you simply paused or took a better take.

Philippines

Alright, all pointers are taken. I will be using livesplit so I can show the gameplay done in straight sitting for sure. Might restart my run if anything came out of a sudden. Thanks for the clarifications.

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Victoria, Australia

Hi, I only just signed up to the website and I'm wondering about this for a Minecraft 1.16 all advancements speedrun when the update is released? I'm still hunting for good seeds, which are still pending on any world gen changes, but with my current seed it takes about 4 hours for me to do all of them except for 'how did we get here', which takes about 2 hours on its own to setup. I'm wondering whether I have to do the speedrun in one sitting and recording as in my first attempts it may take up to 8 hours if things go badly? I'm a high school student, work part-time, and am a national level athlete so it's hard for me to fit in 8 hours straight playing Minecraft.

Israel

@vagga2U:

  1. Ask in the game forums
  2. why the hell you ask that in this thread
Gaming_64 likes this
Victoria, Australia

Note: 8 hours is actually a really optimistic estimate. My only full run so far was about 18 hours over 3 weeks, and the sum of my estimated optimal times for all parts comes to about 6hours 25minutes. Also, the answer would also determine whether I try it in random seed as well, which would take well over 48 hours, but I mean I'd be the only one dumb enough to attempt it. However, the biggest problem I see with random seed runs being done over multiple days is how easily you could just not record going in, checking the seed, going out again, and cheating that way so I don't think it could ever be acceptable. And that would be especially true for people like me with no reputation as yet, but even someone like Illumina might struggle to provide adequate evidence to avoid all suspicion. Set seed, on the other hand, there is no need to worry about that, although the issue of whether splicing may have occurred is still a big problem, I don't know the ins and outs of speedrunning well enough. From reading all the rules, I'm still not entirely sure whether using only in-game time for such a run is correct or whether I have to include loading screens if I enter or leave the world. Honestly, I see why no one has done these ridiculous advancement runs since 1.12, there is so much ambiguity in how to record for someone with little speedrunning experience, and the speed run itself could be ruined so easily in so many ways, usually involving death, wither skulls not dropping and your elder guardian dying too early. Also, ghasts are hard to get in the overworld, and you need a fair amount of netherite, and don't get me started on getting both bad omen and hero of the village while levitating and having a beacon maxed out and mining fatigue, and having just eaten a pufferfish.

United States

@vagga2U Generally, speedruns on this site are timed via RTA, meaning you need to leave your timer and video running while taking breaks. Though Minecraft also seems to use IGT, I don't see anything allowing breaks where one pauses the timer or quits the game without still recording.

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