Starting speedrunning. Tips?
5 years ago
Romania

I just got Super Mario 64 and want to start speedrunning. I want to do a 120 star run, but I need some tips. Can anyone give me some ?

Edited by the author 5 years ago

Go fast. Don't go not fast.

RandomDude_, kcaj and 6 others like this
Romania

@ArtismScrub Thanks :)

United States

Just remember that practice, even though it's sometimes boring, is key.

Norway

Tip number one over any other tip: DON'T. I just came here from an 8 hour stream session, it's not worth it man, it's better to do drugs or something. god.

Norway

BUT: If you want a serious tip, I would like to know if you got sm64 on n64, or are you playing on emulator? Nevertheless, I recommend you to actually go for this strategy, coming from someone who is taking a master degree in music, where practice is key:

  1. Practice. This can mean many things actually. What's practice in sm64 anyway? Well, the goal of the game (read speedrunning) is basically getting the wanted results whenever you're trying them. Look over at lunar and akki to mention a few who are working hard on their skills. They often go over and over at the same stages, yes, even at the same movements (which you should google GameShark for). And this is a very good and efficient way of practicing this holy sport made of everything nice and addictiveness.
  2. When everything is good and you feel comfortable with your movement, I would recommend you checking out alternative routes. But remember: Don't go for advanced routes if you don't know the movements and have gotten them consistent yet. Then go back to (1).
  3. Do a run and record it.
  4. Go through this run and don't think about the time. Now your job is to be critical. Be an internet troll to yourself and hate your own run. It sounds stupid, but this will let you see what you can improve more easily.
  5. There is no (5). Go back to one and repeat everything to get a new PB.

Comments: Well... About practice. This depends on, but also return to the same, if you're doing a longer or shorter run (Now thinking e.g. 120/70 vs 16/1/0 stars). The (2) is maybe more important in the shorter runs than the longer ones, but I still recommend doing long runs or simply playing the game and trying out strats you've seen other speedrunners do. This is a good way to practice certain movements which in the overall helps making you a better runner. Let's say you want to do a 16 star run, but you have no experience with the game. You'll be heavily beaten by someone who has never played the original, but a lot of rom hacks and learned BLJs, which is required to reach the very end of the game with 70 stars or less. BUT: Let's say you have two persons who have played the original sm64 and same version, just as long, where one has been practicing the 0/1 star, while the other has only been doing 70 star runs. The 70-runner will likely beat the 0/1-runner after some practice of the strats and also by learning these new movements like LBLJ. But: If they were both to learn a new category, the 120 star runner will definitely win. This is because he has: 1: Tried those stars before. 2: He knows the movement and is much more comfortable with movements that might not be required in a 0/1 star run.

You understand?

And also, I see you're from Romania, @RandomDude! I love your folk music, even though my master thesis will be about regional and sociocultural differences and similarities in Bulgarian wedding music from the communism until today :p

Edited by the author 5 years ago
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Romania

@bjotos25 Thanks alot for the advice. I didn't actually knew that on this forums people actually help other begginners that much. Thanks again. And I know that prcatice is key, I have been practicing alot these past couple of dyas, but I am far from doing a run. I only recorded some splits on some levels that I am not really good at, so yeah. Thanks very much. And you can just call me RD if you want. :)

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Norway

Rd it is, welcome and I wish you all luck with your future runs and practices. Feel free to step by my stream which is about to start over at twitch :) I can probably give some tips over there as well

United States

what an ad ^

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Rhode Island, USA

@dumpdome this is a meme

Romania

@bjotos25 Thanks. And maybe I will drop by sometimes.

Missouri, USA

Make sure that you watch a run first. Second never just mash on BLJs, Thirdly always make sure that you never just long jump. Always jump dive and long jump. Fourth of all press Z to let go of ledges. If you have questions please reply.

Washington, USA

1# tip of most speedgames: movement before tricks

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