What's lit my lit b's? We (probably) know the frame perfect B press method to successfully get FPG https://www.speedrun.com/smb1/thread/vboca We also probably know the good ol (new actually) HappyLee setup with the good ol (new axe shully) hold jump at start and release right for 2 frames Both of these methods have something in common, they both require the sockfolder setup at the end of the level, and hey, that's cool, that's lit b

We all (actually most likely NONE of us kkkkkkkk) probably know about the "Alternate 4-1 FPG setup" post by KingOf_JonnyBoy https://www.speedrun.com/smb1/thread/lia34

Good ol not hold B at the beginning of level for 3 frames, then just jump at the top of the stairs in 4-1, and you get ez D70 (no mavpole witchcraft, no pressing left, no releasing right, just jumping)

Well, I decided to poke around in 8-3, since hey, there's a method where you indeed don't hold B at the beginning, so what if you could do the same thing?

If you press B exactly 5 frames later than the normal time you would press it for the standard method, you would get this, by jumping at the top of the stairs (or what I like to call, TOSetup [top of stairs setup]) No mavpole, no left presses, and you're already set up from the beginning of the level BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE

There are backups in case you press the B button late or early, so essentially, this isn't a frame perfect B press method, this is a 3 frame B press method..? hol up wat

If you press B 1 frame late, you won't be able to do TOSetup, but you can do Sockfolder setup (but with D50 inputs)

If you press B 1 frame early, it's a little more difficult to recover, but it's doable. You have to release right midair for exactly 5 frames to get D40 with sockfolder setup (freaking thingy is like finna no if you get D60 god dang it b, but hey, that's on TAS, maybe it's different RTA) D40 inputs is basically the same as D50, you have to do it perfectly (loud noise at end beware)

One last thing: I made notes if you use the sockfolder rom what the letters and numbers will say in the top left corner thingy when you run off the 2nd bill launcher

2 frames early = 630 1 frame early = 5F0 0 frames early = 6F0 1 frame late = 690 2 frames late = 530

BUT HEY, THAT'S JUST- Kappa

This has been known about for a while, StuckInAPlate found the B press but we never ended up using it.

You mean in 8-3? I want to put it out there for people to know about as another thing you can do in 8-3, and nobody made a post about it, which means only everyone you told would know about it

It was in wes's discord at one point, and on my YT channel.

o i c b

I also did this RTA The reason I jump at the bottom is because the pole inputs are easier to do, aka when you get D70, it's a whole lot easier as opposed to perfect inputs

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