Refused new Leaderboard
3 years ago

I requested Valorant, with 2 games modes, https://puu.sh/GfpZ9/9cccae8129.png here is the proof, and it got refused within https://puu.sh/Gfq23/800560d4a8.png 5 mins.

The reason was " We are not accepting PvP based games ", so why where, Rainbow Six Siege or Dead by Daylight added with leaderboard ? both are based on PvP.

Could someone explain why this happend ? Thanks.

ChinoManda and dripping like this
United States

Note in the game request rules: “What We Do Not Accept

At this time, we are not adding the following:

  • Short/Trivial Games
  • Generic Puzzle Games
  • Generic Typing Games
  • Geography Games
  • Vocabulary/Math and other Educational Games
  • Quiz Games
  • Generic Sudoku Solvers/Minesweeper Remakes/Rubik's Cube Solvers/etc.
  • Visual Novels/Interactive Movies
  • PvP-Related Activities
  • High-Score Based Submissions
  • Non-Video-Game Activities”

Key phrase: at this time. This doesn’t mean they’ve never accepted them before. Rainbow Six Siege was added way back in 2016, and I assume Dead by Daylight is older as well.

This rule feels really redundant ? Not giving it even a closer look? Explain genuinely what is considered trivial ?

Edited by the author 3 years ago
dripping likes this
United States

As far as triviality, there’s more info on here as to what requirements need to be met: https://www.speedrun.com/gamerequestrules

As for your game, I don’t know what you want me to say. It conflicts with a current rule, so it wasn’t accepted.

Antarctica

Yeah, the site made their rules stricter when accepting games within the last year or two. Any game added before those rules is fine as they didn’t retroactively go and remove boards or anything like that. But going forward, those rules are pretty strict (especially the ones surrounding PvP games and visual novels).

Ivory and Pear like this
Israel

Valorant was already requested a few times and was rejected. In short, any game that is mostly based on PvP activities is not accepted, by the site rules. Comparing that to other games is useless, because the rules were added through the years but are never applied retroactively.

If you want to know the reasons for that rule - my guess is that speedruns in a PvP games can't be compared, because your (real-life) opponents are a major factor, and you have the possibility to "cheat" if you set up a team of enemies that will lose on purpose.

Gaming_64 and Pear like this

That page still does not name what trivial means + doesn't say anything about PvP.

I will argue, that games should be look at by a case to case base.

@Oreo321 Then, again, i go and argue with Rainbow Six Siege and Dead by Daylight.

Israel

Note that your game was rejected because it is PvP, nothing was said about it being trivial (which is an issue for a whole different type of games).

About Rainbow Six Siege and Dead by Daylight - nothing to argue, we told you that the games were accepted before the current rules.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Gaming_64 and Pear like this
United States

Here is the info from the page I linked on what a game needs to not be considered trivial: • The game should have a reasonable length such as 5 minutes or longer. • The game should show that a reasonable level of effort has been put into development from a functionality standpoint. • The game should have been played by a reasonably large number of people. • The gameplay should show some potential for optimization through speedrunning. • Fangames with common names that create confusion in the search bar may also be held to a higher standard. There are hundreds of generic Mario fangames.

But as was mentioned above, this rule isn’t relevant to the game you submitted. It was rejected for having PvP.

California, USA

I requested this game on day 1 of the beta.

Basically, they won't accept anymore pvp-based games whose categories will mainly consist of Training/Practice Range/Tutorial or non-story/campaign. The games that are already here in the database are fine, but new games will not be added. In order for this type of game to be accepted, it needs to have a story/campaign mode.

I suggested that they make it more clear in their rules in regards to these types of games to avoid people wasting their time (people are still requesting this game) but it was too much to ask for apparently.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
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