Sorry, new to the world of speed running but as I just set a record in a game, Elite Dangerous, and am sponsoring a speed run competition I'd love to use the site for people to submit their entries. The trouble is I don't see how to add the "category" or speed run type to the game (pretty niche so not surprised).
Is there a way to do this? I'd need to add something like "Elite Rank" with a specific patch level in the submission data. What do I do?
Thanks!
~X
Only moderators of the game can add categories, I suggest contacting them. Try the game's forum or their contact information on their profile. Beyond that it's often a community decision, so if there are or will be several runners for that category it would probably be added. If the moderators are inactive and not answering any contact attempt you can also request to be moderator yourself, it may require to submit a run and to give them a few weeks to respond.
Yeah, damn - I was thinking you might say that. Is is possible to start a "new" game? The section they have for Elite is all based on the free training materials, not the actual game. So is there a way to start a second one or am I likely stuck? Seems a very odd way to set things up but thanks for the reply.
You're not stuck, but you won't get immediate results yeah. I don't know about opening a new leaderboard. If it separate content from the same game my guess is it won't be accepted. If it's a separate game even if it shares the name then maybe you can request a new leaderboard.
Yeah you can’t create two separate boards for the same game. You either need to talk to the mods about adding the categories you want or use a different site to host the competition. This site isn’t really equipped to handle competitions anyway unless people are just comparing times. Most communities use a site like challonge to host a tournament. But if you’re just trying to do a “fastest run” competition, it sounds like a great way to get a bunch of people doing runs of the game and category which could provide the mods with enough reason to add it afterwards.
"or use a different site to host the competition" Yep, that's what I'll do as I need something basically now and have no desire to chase down people who created something over a year ago on a site with such archaic rules and structure. Sort of a shame as it would have been cool to use given the easy URL but the last thing I have time for is convincing admins to fix or change something that is setup in such a silly way. Regardless thanks for the replies, I'll just look elsewhere or build something myself, seems far far easier.
as far as I can tell, the moderator for the game are inactive (1 year & 3 months respectively), so you could explain the situation to the full mods / site admins they could make you moderator for the game page and set that thing up yourself. if you don't want to moderate it further than just your competition, you could unmod yourself afterwards.
there's a thread for that https://www.speedrun.com/The_Site/thread/63nr7 here.
if you don't want to moderate it further than just your competition, you could unmod yourself afterwards.
Thats not how it works.
@Daravae issue is, in terms of speedrunning, the game's non-existant / dead on speedrun.com anyway. total run-time of 10 minutes, and 6 runs total with last run from a year ago and inactive moderators. him moderating the page temporarily for this and get some life into that game doesn't seem to be too much of an issue.
If he was to stay a moderator or not, it would not matter as basically no activity is there.
I'm quite surprised by your answer. Personally, I don't think thats how moderation works at all. Regardless of how big a leaderboard is or what their activity is, moderation should never be thrown around carelessly, nor should it be fine to temporarily even.. assign moderation to a user that does not even have past affiliation with SRC (Account is 2 days old) to let them do their own thing to an already existing leaderboard. Don't forget that this leaderboard also was once requested, approved and thought out by its current moderators. Just because one user drops in all of the sudden and wants their ideas to reflect on the leaderboard to just hand it over doesn't mean its a good idea to do so. Besides that, users should always follow the regular path: submit a run, contact the moderators, do what is in your powers as a user to try and solve this yourself. I am going to keep saying this: the moderation thread is last resort only. This is also part of official site rules on the bottom of this page: https://www.speedrun.com/rules
And this is EXACTLY why I just need to find another way to do this - as this silly "moderation" approach is killing this for a game like Elite. It's not a typical speed run game so I'm not surprised at all that there's little activity - in the history of the game this is the first time the company has sponsored an official community speed run competition. Since someone else "beat me to it" and only one person can start/mod a game title anyone else after them is screwed. So yeah, just a very poorly setup system in the first place, I image this causes many niche games to die here or not have a listing in the first place.
Thanks for your comments HowDenKing, you make some good proposals on how to make this work but at this point I have way too many things to spend my time on that something as silly as tracking down old moderators, appealing to other moderators, going through some formal process and trying to become a moderator myself. What I need is very simple, one new category added to a game and if the system is setup in such an overbearing and silly way that it can't happen fine, I'll just build something myself as that would take me FAR less time.
'nuff said at this point, I'm moving on and likely won't be back as I'm not a speed runner in the traditional sense anyway. Best of luck to others who get stuck in this silliness.
~X
brand new user doesn't immediately get their way and learns that the thing they want actually takes a slight amount of effort "ugh this site sucks anyway I'm never coming back" Classic.
HAHAHA, oh nice try there buddy - I give honest feedback about how stupid a site is setup and someone gets butt hurt over it - so predictable isn't it? Let's see, the site is designed to host speed runs. Because of the way site is designed it can't host speed runs. And that's not a total fail? You should get into politics with that level of spin talent!
But hey, thanks for trying, it was about as effective as the site.
You called the set up of the board silly and site moderation stupid. That's not feedback, that's just complaining. Yes. this site is designed to be a speedrun hub. It was probably never imagined that someone would want to use it to gather run submissions for a competition, as there are already other sites for that. It is not true that "only one person can start/mod a game title anyone else after them is screwed". The initial requester can add as many people as they deem necessary to help moderate. Whoever is moderating should be a member of the community so that they have the best interests for the game and community at heart. You're just looking for an easy way to do this competition. If you don't have time for formal processes that are in place to prevent mishaps, how do you have time for anything?
I mean dude, look at it from the site's perspective. You've only been here for three days, as far as we can tell you have no affiliation with the speedrunning community (for the game in question or otherwise), by your own admission you're not a "traditional" speedrunner (whatever that means)... why should you be able to modify the leaderboards and add whatever you feel like adding? Letting anyone add whatever categories they want would be complete chaos. The fact that you can't do that easily isn't a flaw with the site, that's very much by design. Yes, that's slightly inconvenient to you in this one edge-case (which, as mentioned by others, is better suited to other sites anyway), but it has to be this way.