Version Differences
7 years ago
United States

Hello, I'm interested in potentially running this game (I own the GC version) but I see that the top half of the leaderboard all runs Xbox. What version differences are there that cause this to be optimal?

Kenya

Load times

CaptainX24 likes this
United States

GC is slower by like 3 minutes

CaptainX24 likes this
United States

Oh, okay, thanks - nice to know it's not based on actual tricks. Out of curiosity, has discussion ever come up about trying to subtract load times from the runs?

DrewTheJackal likes this
United States

This is what SHiFT said on the matter, and I personally agree with him.

"This is an unrealistic proposal. The people who want to play the game competitively will get the fast console, much like they will for all other competitive speedgames. All multi-console games have loading time differences; this is not a special case.

Reminder that this game does not have regional differences due to the text box and cutscene speeds not changing across languages. No game is perfect, but we have some positives to work with in BFBB. Editing load times is absolutely ridiculous; good players will switch to the fast consoles in due time and have no problem with doing so."

United States

PS3 appears to be faster than GameCube for the first loads in the game, but no data has been collected for an entire Any% run. Wii is just as slow as GameCube but some have reported that loads are more consistent.

All of the time estimations collected so far are speculative, by the way. None have been proven but many accept them as fact. I estimated that 360 is around 40-45s slower than Xbox, which may be close to accurate, but has not actually been proven. Proving these things would require consistent consoles and a single route to test. A lot of these estimations were still accepted through the May-July period when I was rerouting Any% dramatically, so this gives us even less of a reason to believe they are accurate. The route was still constantly changing in terms of segment/spatula order and menuing, not to mention that I proved Xbox is faster than 360 during this period so the original comparisons were based on X360/GCN/PS2 and not even the OG Xbox. I just recently routed another load out of the run as well.

Idk if anyone will ever get around to accurately timing these things but imo it doesn't matter because we know that Xbox is the fastest. In the back of my mind, however, I still believe there's a possibility of some 360 model being faster, but it's highly unlikely because of emulation bugs, and the original Xbox already being an extremely powerful console. Basically a specialized PC.

On the topic of tricks, there is a BBB/L-clip in the Kelp Swamps that is able to be done consistently on GameCube and 360, however the clip leads into a TAS strat that I have not experimented with enough to know whether it is viable for RTA runs.

I'd also like to add that timing loads out of the run would make mismenuing far more forgiving, making the run less skillful. Menuing is a skill that must be fast and accurate to run this game, and the time it takes to load the wrong level can kill a run if you're optimized enough. It's a major component of the game that increases the skill ceiling dramatically and cannot realistically / should not be timed out.

Edited by the author 7 years ago
Rmac524, DrewTheJackal and 6 others like this
Australia

Spongeglides lead to be a TAS strat on All PAL consoles. So we lose about 2 or so mins.

United States

Just don't bother with spongeglide on PAL, it really doesn't become a necessity until 1:0X, at which point you should switch to NTSC

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Australia

Other version differences to add here are loading in from prawn skip on GC cause it wont warp you back to the spat - but will on ps2 and xbox and loading in from dutchamn skip on both ps2 and gc but not on xbox. And i guess cbing is easiest to do on ps2 since how the control layout is on the controller, but idk just an opinion from experience

Friesland, Netherlands

You won't load in on Dutchman on Ps2, Xbox works correctly on all the bosses. Ps2 cruiseboosting is harder because there is no winding sound.

Australia

Alex i said that u have to load in on ps2 and gc but you dont have to on xbox lol... And idk cb seems easier to do on ps2.

Friesland, Netherlands

You don't have to load in on Dutchman on GameCube.

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