Questions regarding initial rules.
6 years ago

Hi, thank you for creating this leaderboard.

If somebody runs on "practice" and does not show the difficulty, will the run be counted as a "normal" one?

Should the emulator and version used be in the description? (there are accurate and very inaccurate emulators)

Should future videos contain audio as it helps to faster verify new runs?

I don't think it should ever be allowed to use save states for real runs, or to quote Toad22484: "Never, under any circumstance, is save stating to skip the intro of a game in a real attempt allowed. Ever. Please for the love of everything stop using save states in actual runs. It manipulates RNG amongst other things. Please. Thank you."

Those things are thoughts and opinions let me hear what you think about them.

Switzerland

Hi Antrasporus,

great that you joined the show. Considering how good your GB runs are, you should beat me in no time. I am still very new to speedrunning (this is my first game to run), so I am not that familar with all the regular traditions yet.

To answer your question:

a) I think we should bring the save state question and the practice question together: I understand that savestates can bring some drastic problems and I am willing to bear the 20s loading screen when resetting runs. As the game is always on "normal" difficulty after resetting, all runs not showing a selection should be counted as "normal runs". (to be honest: When trying with practice I did not see any difference, while on the gameboy version you seem to be able to take more hits. I don't think there is any difference. Blame the bad port... But I could be wrong.)

b ) Emulator and version should be given. I think it is worth discussing if certain emulators are not allowed. I think people tend to only allow BizzHawk and FCEUX. (I use the later)

c) I am not sure what you mean with the question. (Maybe my sound problems with the 16m02s run?) Basicly I think you should be able to hear the game sound, but maybe I am missing something here.

To summarize we would have the following rules update for all future runs:

a) Only emulators allowed are BizzHawk and FCEUX b ) Emulator name and version have to be given in the run description c) Videos have to contain the game intro, you are not allowed to skip the intro with save states. Your video link can however skip the intro to you pressing start d) If your run does not show the difficulty select, it is considered a "normal" run e) You are not allowed to submit a video without the game audio

Do you think this rules update is in the spirit of what you are suggesting?

Edited by the author 6 years ago

Hey,

a / b ) I would not be too restrictive as there are more good emulators, but stating emulator used and version is a good thing.

c ) That sounds good, pun intended.

d ) Practice runs start with 20 apples, normal ones with 15 and hard ones with 5; we can keep that in mind.

e ) Don't think you have to state it in the rules, but having audio is usually expected.

Again, thank you for making the leaderboard, and welcome to the speedrun community :-)

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Switzerland

e) I understand the audio mention now: OBS does not record the game sound when I am on the headset instead of the speakers. I think I fixed this, but my new run does not come with gamesound either... Did not notice the problem, due to former runs being often on the speakers...

Thanks for the rest

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