New Runner, Hello!
5 years ago
Missouri, USA

Hi all deciding to start picking up speed running, casually at first and then we will see from there. Planning on toki for NES or Genesis. When I was a kid I couldn't even get past the second level, but to this day my dad loved that game for some reason and got good and I still remember most levels.

Are there any other Sites that post times or resources on all i know is Twin Galaxies and This (Discords of course?) If a TAS for a game did exist where would it be found commonly?

Antarctica

Hello, welcome.

Sometimes games have external sites where they have runs or other content but that depends on the game. Also, https://tasvideos.org is what you’re looking for for TASing.

Oklahoma, USA

The best TAS are on the link posted above! TAS are forbidden on this site though. :P

Welcome! Hope you get some nostalgia and have a good time!

Edited by the author 5 years ago
Missouri, USA

Thank you all for the information. I know Tool assisted things cant be submitted as runs, I was just gonna use them to observe as a optimal route. Also sort of intrested in how they work and are able to find clips and other glitches. Does a human change the inputs by frame or is it a linear regression where it makes x arbitrary choices so many y frames out (x, and y chosen by user) then a computer plays the game and finds the best possible time for those y frames by making and comparing x inputs?

Or is it a symbiotic relationship between TASER and the speed community, as in they discover glitches and then someone varies inputs each frame to understand the glitch. and they build and evolve the time by working together

Antarctica

Uhh the 2 communities just work together. Sometimes someone finds a glitch and then someone will just attempt to TAS it to see if it can be replicated as well as if a setup can be found. The 2 communities often share people, it’s not like the TAS community for games and the speedrunning community are distinct entities, people move between both frequently. The only distinct things about them is how they do their runs.

Most TASes aren’t done by trial and error on inputs like you described. Sockfolder has a bot that famously tried as many permutations of movement as it could to try and find a setup, but that’s not common in TASing. Most TASes focus on what can be manipulated - a lot of the movement and actions being done on certain frames is being done that way to manipulate something else. Optimal movement comes a little secondary to that as you go frame by frame.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
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