Damn it. Ok, this was a semi-fail, this would allow us to dupe Highjack And Verdant meadows,though? More timesave towards 4¤ LV, i just keep making thing worse for any%, maybe i should stop looking for things Keepo Maybe this has some use for 100% though, not sure :D

Bike School duping High Jack is quite a bit faster than wasted warping from Monster to SF and then using Blood Bowl.

The plan is to dupe Outrider using Blood Bowl which gives us 0¤ (until Verdant Meadows) and then fails one instance. You then carry the call through Outrider, ST, ICK and P69 to finally dupe TLF. I have verified holding it through P69 but have not found a nice timing method. You want to get the call between the last sniper shot and mission passed and you do that by holding the call while driving to t-bone and then cancelling it with the right timing. I hope that AK range and AK ammo during Outrider make it possible to blow up Ryder's boat with the AK while holding the in case you get the call too early (before you can aim your sniper Rifle at Ryder, that is). OTOH, if you mess up you can probably salvage it otherwise - no time to explain, got to go. :(

There are three times we could get rid of traffic using BB: after Photo Opp, before Outrider or after High Jack. Getting rid of it before Outrider means that you rely completely on a parked car (at assassination point, near og loc Burger Shot(this place you use to get your first car after leaving the train), maybe others, maybe at the side of some roads) for the long post-Snail Trail drive which means more variance in time due to RNG. You cannot use scripted cop spawns anymore due to the 0¤. It will have to be timed to decide if you want to get rid of traffic sooner or later.

I wanted to make a tutorial but everything takes so long... Here is my script...

Videos: demo: fast call stuff: I am not sure if this is faster than an optimized SMG strat. Edit: route afterwards:

I use Shift and XMB1 (extra mouse button) to hold calls

0. Switch to satchels at some point - it is best to always do it at the same point so that you don't forget it.

I) Get onmission 0 call with Blood Bowl (should know how this works, else familiarize yourself with basic duping)

II) getting onmission 0 call to from Blood Bowl to Jizzy You can't just hold shift because then he will take the call after the cutscene

1. "Take" the call during the cutscene, as soon as you see something of the cutscene after the black screen [more research when the earliest point is - maybe you can let go during the black screen] if you take it earlier, it takes some time for the call to cancel so you have to wait for longer.
2. Wait for 15 seconds (after "look, Woozie" should(!) be safe).
3. Hold the call button.
4. Skip cutscene. (If you do not use a "special key" to hold(shift, any mouse button), skip it with the mouse button.)

III) avoiding duping Jizzy(mission) [ duping = starting a mission multiple times - we want to have onmission = 0 during the mission so we are not duping yet ]

• Tduva says you just need to hold the call, it is "taken" (cancelled) automatically
• For me, that sometimes duped Jizzy in the many times I did that and cannot be bothered to do the research, so I actually take the call during that 500ms fade, then I mash skip and F. If you are slow, the call might count as taken. You can fail that by letting go off shift too early...

IV) Jizzy

1. Hold call after killing the pimp. btw, every single cutscene after the in door intro can be skipped by holding sprint (and sprint only)

V) Jizzy: interesting part Note: a) Don't drive or sprint, else you skip the cutscene (anything that corresponds to the PS2 X button skips the cutscene). [ Holding those buttons before to avoid them skipping the cutscene does not work. ] b) The satchels are despawned after the cutscene. So you have to trigger them before it ends. c) If the girl dies during the Cut Scene, the mission fails (she is still "friendly" then). So you have to skip the cutscene after triggering the satchels, so that the car gets wrecked after the cutscene. The steps: 0) If you don't have satchels equipped, have fun switching weapons during this.

1. During the fade, "take" the call and get out.
2. Hold W/D and jump twice, don't get run over.^^
3. After the scene change [?], hold A and keep pressing S.
4. Hold your "hold call" button(s).
5. If you are slow, wait for the call - if you throw a satchel during the ringing, the call cancels and shortly later the cutscene ends.
6. Blow up the satchels, then skip the cutscene.
7. Run to your car.

Backup strat if you cancel the call or have no satchels: Do steps 1-3. Wait for the driver to get into the stretch, get in from the passenger side and hold the jump(not sprint!) button to kill him, stop the stretch. If you don't have the call held already, wait for the call to come in, kill them.

If you don't want to wait for the call, keep the cops in mind: A cop witnessing you throwing the satchel without you seeing him (look for them) is quite unlikely. The cop has to be nearby (roughly 7 CJ W only running steps). Try it yourself, see how near you can get to a cop until it bothers him that you are throwing a satchel. Satchels give you 25 points of chaos level (points is the unit of chaos level) (a chaos level of 50 points gives 1 star, 180 -> 2) sometimes (I don't know why it happens). Getting 50 points from the satchels is quite rare, however. If you had 0 points before throwing the satchels, it does not matter anyways since you lose one point every second there is no cop nearby. But if you had a wanted level before - your chaos level is set to 70 (70 = 50(for one star) + 20) points if there is a cop nearby while you are shooting, you need to keep track of your chaos level - counting the seconds passed, etc.

the numbers again and some more 50 -> 1 star 180 -> 2 stars points lost if no cop is nearby (10 steps) -> 1 per second, 2 in some parts of SA, like the countryside and the desert

cop witnessing you shooting or running someone over -> set to 70 points running someone over -> adds 18 stealing a car -> adds 15 throwing a satchel or causing an explosion PLUS bad luck -> adds 25 points

Nick linked this on IRC, haven't checked it, I want to finally do a run now. ^^ Edit: I am quite sure about the 35, the article says 30 - difference between games, I guess. I'll test again later, maybe I am wrong.

Black Project can be duped without Quarry. It seems consistent to me, but that might turn out to be wrong, ofc.

It is simple if you know how to do it, but still, you should skim this post.

That should allow doing this step 1) dupe FIAB step 2) get om0 call Some video of the following steps: step 3) start Madd Dogg. You don't want the call to count as taken, so you let go off shift during the 500ms fade between being inside the mission marker and the intro cutscene starting. After the cutscene you shoot and now you can press F if you want to, shooting "invalidates" taking the call. While waiting for Madd Dogg to jump, hold the call - preferably just before getting into your car so that the stats aren't blocking your view. ^^ step 4) dupe Misappropriation I did not dupe inside the cutscene to show that this is possible in case you need the call for later - which is not the case in this route. I also showed that one Misappropriation instance remains when dying during duped Misappropriation. step 5) get another om0 call from duped Misappropriation Post by Mew: http://www.speedrun.com/post/5bk0s step 6) dupe BP with that call

The BP Dupe So you hold the om0 call. The way it works is that you use a method where there is a gap between both mission instances being triggered (both intro cs being started) and in that gap you skip the cutscene. You have to follow these rules:

1. Release shift during the cutscene, not the 500ms fade before the cutscene: If you release shift during that 500ms fade thing, the second BP instance starts almost immediately after om is set to 0 (after pressing F).
2. Now, wait for 2s. Probably the game waits because of the "taking out phone" animation.
3. Hold F. OM=0 but the "put phone away" animation blocks mission starts. A tiny bit¤ later skip the cutscene while still holding F ¤ 200ms up to 1sec or so?

3 demos in the YouTube video: Pay attention to me pressing F, LMB (skip), and the value of onmission in the cheat engine window. I messed up so that it is pixelated, but you can still read it. It is the number left to the input display. Success 1) I press F, 0.25s later LMB, works fine. Success 2) I press F, ages later LMB - still works fine. Do not let the cut in the video confuse you. ^^ Failure 1) I let go off shift during the 500ms fade before the mission starts. The second BP instance starts immediately after onmission turned 0.

A successful dupe can be verified by the armor being spawned twice. If you only get one, probably one of these two is true: Problem a) If om=0, then only one instance started. Problem b) If om=1, then one BP instance got stuck in the cutscene. I will refer to them later in the post.

And now some tips and stuff: 1) Problem a) from above (om0): Wait for another call, hold it, fail the mission by running away from Area 69 and try again.

If (in the cs near Area 51) you hear CJ-Truth dialogue, wait until The Truth drives away and skip the cutscene then. Else you either crash the game or softlock the mission - you cannot progress. In that case(softlock), fail it, dupe it again - just don't start it with Quarry running, that would crash the game in this case due to the goggles being loaded and therefore stuff and stuff.

I can sometimes skip the Truth-CJ cutscene early, I don't know if that was using my old duping method or not. Either way, it is good when it happens, no problem.

To fix Problem b) from above (om1), beat BP, afterwards get rid of the stuck BP instance by dying while holding a phone call (dying with om1). It may not say mission failed but it works. I have not tested this for this mission in particular but it should work.

Has anyone been able to dupe Cop Wheels, and skip Up, Up and Away? I am not being able to do it. I can`t dupe during the cutscene, and if done later it will fail the first instance.

Perhaps if there is a mission that can be started before Cop Wheels, and will not crash when Cop Wheels is started, itwill make 2 instances start.

You can try this: You can dupe Explosive Situation and then for Cop Wheels duping, you let go off shift during the 500ms fade when the mission text still shows. What happens is that duped ExplSitu gives you two "Heist starter threads". Therefore, if you set om to 0 in the time span I mentioned, the secons Heist starter also starts an instance.

Tirean was talking of duping the Wuzi race a couple weeks ago and I just found out you could get a catalina call for that. Either you fail the final Catalina mission and you get a 15sec phone call or save a lot. Probably have to fail and then you could do trucking and hold the call just before you complete the mission into the next.

I doubt this would be useful at all, but if someone wants to try it could be a thing I guess. If you try to dupe the Catalina mission the game crashes as you reach the betting shop marker.

probably can't dupe wu zi mu unless you vigilante or paramedic started it. you need to be in a vehicle to start the 2nd instance but when you trigger the mission CJ gets teleported out of the car, going om0 mid race crashes the game

Did you answer the call after duping Ran Fa Li? If you did, I think that's the problem, cuz I have answered it in my PB and I got the same problem as you so I lost 8 min :P

Catalina call: http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/rasn9 [quote]There is a ~10% chance of taking a low priority call if you have high and low priority calls in the queue and the last call/mission pass/... was >=1min ago. Edit: So either take the call before the minute is over after the last mission pass or hold the Toreno call inside to boat for - dunno - 30s and then cancel (let go off shift). That resets the call timer, now it takes another minute for the call to come back in.[/quote]

Determining which call comes in: it is random, there are ways to "invalidate" taking a call, see here: http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/thread/mr4m5 For that to happen, the calls have to be from separate "call threads", like SF and Bad Lands. There are LS (obvious), Bad Lands (Bad Lands -> AYGTSF call), SF (Wear Flowers -> Woozie casino call), LV (use common sense - the Leone call is LV^^), RTLS. Otherwise, the call order is fixed and unmanipulatable.

Duping Body Harvest: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tCgCoyY9e88apJbbmQKIb2GiQdlIoBFkgcDhYqMj63o/edit#gid=883216134 [quote] Body Harvest LelReset tested it: "Works (i did not dupe in the cutscene)" would “softlock” (AYGTSF requires exactly one passed TT mission and you have to complete that mission) [/quote]

I think this could work. It's strange because the bike will despawn when entering the marker, but it maybe affects the dumpers. I did this 6 times in a row and I haven't failed it, maybe I was lucky, I don't know, maybe you guys can test it and see if it's actually consistent or not.

iirc, theres 2 catalina calls in LV, tho im probably wrong

Me too cooller, i was just practicing LV and i saw the sanchez and that gave me the idea.

My success rate is only 5 out of 7 so far. Since I use a teleporter, I always park in the same spot: the center of the spawn location. My angle is also always the same - I don't know what it is, anymore.

So it isn't consistent (at least for you), fack

Just wanted to throw this in here, comparison between skipping Grove4Life and doing it. I cut out the non-relevant parts (please tell me if you think I cut it wrong). I made some small mistakes in both videos (and of course the RNG in Grove4Life), so take it with a grain of salt.

It appears you can save roughly 2 minutes by skipping Grove4Life. So it depends on how much time you loose due to homies jumping out whether it's worth it. In my PB I lost about 1:30 to that (so still saved 30s), although I probably could have handled that better.

And you can't take over the territory wout G4L because? Even wout a cop bike it would still be faster than doing G4L, at least from first thoughts.

You can try taking it over during Los Desperados. I have never tested that.

Patrick, is there a way to hold the call through Fender Ketchup? I've tried, but I'm always om1 when I start it.

im a total newbie w/ dumpz can some1 explain how to dupe/skip los sepulcros?