60FPS Any% is now a main category, 60FPS Discussion Thread
6 years ago
Italy

After bringing the issue up in the Talos Discord and receiving no objections, I have decided to make 60FPS Any% a main category on the leaderboards, instead of a Miscellaneous one.

The main pros are:

  • The barrier of entry is much lower for new players, and especially with Talos being ran at SGDQ 2017, some new runners will check the game out. The FPS requirements are scary for people without the technology to run the main categories, but having 60 FPS recognized as one of the main categories helps with attracting interest and bringing new runners here.

  • Runners who already run any% might want to catch a break from resetting over paint. In general, 60 FPS categories - not only Any%, but possibly All Sigils and Gehenna categories in the near future - can be a new challenge for older players as well.

  • Any%, All Sigils, and Gehenna Any% all have very optimized times as World Records, and it's my and many others' belief that our current strategies are close to maximum optimization. With Talos 2 apparently having still a bunch more time until release, expanding into 60 FPS is the best way to expand Talos's lifespan as a speedgame, as strategies for those categories are not quite as optimized and researched yet.

This thread will also serve as a discussion thread for any and all 60 FPS categories for the time being. I'll be planning out basic routes and recording some runs for 60 FPS All Sigils and Gehenna Any% and 100% in a couple weeks - that's probably the next you'll hear from me on this issue.

Best of luck to anyone who will attempt running the category! :D

Gelly likes this
Italy

60 FPS has been added as a side leaderboard to all categories.

Washington, USA

There may be an argument for forcing V-Sync/60 in 60 FPS, when I'm doing runs I'll see -- but I know the range is 64-59 and that may make certain item boosts less consistent (Pinhole Windows in A7, e.g.). If so, I'd like to see that restriction going forwards (I don't see any need to invalidate older runs).

All sigils should be a blast though, sadly low% 60 is still no different from any% 60.

YaLTeR and Amaranth like this
Italy

Fair point, I do get significant advantages/disadvantages because I cap at 64 so enforcing VSync might make sense.

Talk about low% - community% 60FPS is clearly not a thing in the traditional sense of it, but it could be fun to just go around and collect as much as we can without unlocking any items. Regular community% doesn't finish the game either, soooo...

Washington, USA

Well cube + connector should be all sigils, if you want to do something comm%-esque, but I was talking true low% which should be the same as any%, unless there's a way to unlock cube without connector?

Italy

There is a way to unlock cube without connector but you can't finish the game that way either (you need to actually access the cubes in B4 some way to collect the two Ts, and there's no way to do that without connector). So yeah, true low%=any%.

Cube+connector is all sigils, but I meant just collect as much as you can itemless. Just give up on the sigils we cannot collect and go for the rest.