Leaderboards moderation requests thread
9 years ago
Scotland

I just read the fourm posts if anyone disagrees with the run you even showed on the emu you used you can't tas and they still don't believe hmmmm and they just get really moody. Tas have been beaten before just means the tas isn't optimised any more

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United States

MANGEYHUNTER: I added one of the series moderators to the game to open the option of adding more active users. There seems to be some level on consensus among the runners liking your post. One of the series mods being discussed self-removed from the series. Both users are somewhat active though.

NintendoBrothers64: I looks like they modified the categories since your original post. I think the discussion on the game forum has a good chance of sorting out any further discrepancies. You don't need to post here every 3 days.

jsrfaaron: You need a run pending or linked and then we could probably do this.

Low_Life: Pending run, added.

D.E.M.O.: It looks like your runs were added.

lozplyr89: I added this.

RedSkye04: Mod inactive, run pending, ok.

vajom: It looks like the run was added. There are like 8 moderators on this game, so I have to think that one of them can add more mods at their discretion and/or verify runs.

miniomegaking: I moved a bunch of stuff around.

SimplyGaming: The user was online recently. Also you typically need a run pending or listed to request moderator.

Wipeoutjack7: You didn't even post in the discussion thread, as far as I can tell.

MelonSlice: You were added to at least one of those. The others may have been deleted for having no other runs and no mods, not sure. Or the URLs were changed. I added you to Sims 3 as a regular mod since the other mod is somewhat inactive.

ClingingTomcat8: Added since you mod the series and the mod is inactive.

GOA: Runs pending, ok.

WhoIsWORM: I moved some stuff around.

xHotCoffee: I'll jump the gun slightly here and add you as a regular moderator, since you have an accepted run and it seems like the forums are lacking response to an additional category that seems like it makes sense at a glance.

Karatetiger10: Run pending, mod inactive, ok.

CaptNikolai: The game has 5 moderators, please discuss it with them.

Redloko: You need a run pending or linked, and then we can look into it.

MattHazelnut: Run pending, mods inactive, ok.

emeraldaly: Runs pending, mods inactive, ok.

Dracaarys: Runs pending, mods inactive, ok.

Rice_A_Ronin: The mod is slightly inactive and there's only one mod, so I'll add you as a regular mod.

ItsMaximum: Inactive user, okay.

MiklMaar: It's a bit presumptive to be sure a user has seen your posts. If the other runners have an opinion on this topic, they should discuss it on the forums. Currently there's you, the person who liked your post, and the mod, which makes it difficult to get any sort of consensus on the topic.

sQu1cky: https://www.speedrun.com/requestgame

Jaypin88: Do a run, then request mod.

youtubeman06: I made a post in the game forums that hopefully leads to some resolution.

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New York City, NY, USA

I'm sorry I didn't reply sooner, as I was giving the situation time to take its course, and I also wanted to make sure that when the time came for me to say something, it would be as sincere and genuine as it could be. I feel you might have gotten the wrong idea about the situation I had presented to you, and I would like to clarify some of those misunderstandings.

First, "Right now you seem more concerned about your personal position than the state of the board." I mean, I guess I am? It's a rather unfortunate situation when you feel unsure about making further changes due to a group of -- and this is the key part here -- uninvolved, more power-wielding moderators looming above you that can just undo everything you're trying to do for the game you are passionate about. Is it wrong that I don't want to have this nagging feeling over my head?

Just the other day, we held a discussion about a recent framerate abuse in the discord that could speed up the game by about 1-2 minutes, and everyone was definitely intrigued by the possibility of seeing its potential and was excited, and Jake shot it down and said he would not allow it to be used in runs. It gives off the vibe that everyone else's opinion was just irrelevant I guess, and basically a guy who has never submitted a run to the game, and "occasionally" verifies a run or 2 now and then can just make that decision and it ends there no if ands or buts. I could hold a vote, have everyone vote in favor of, and still not be able to make the change, and then possibly even lose the chance to have any effect at all by him demodding me and we just return to where we were before I decided to speak up against this nonsense. A decaying board ran by people who honestly couldn't give a single fuck. I hope you see the precedence that sets and the unsettling feeling I get whenever I'm going to make any sort of change.I also want to clarify I am not for the FPS change, if that matters any bit, but I still want it to go to the community to decide.

Again look at the mods. Alderius, who is this guy? He's literally not anywhere online and I can't talk to him in any capacity, it's actually ridiculous. One run to his name and then poof, he's gone. Voetiem, ok. He is sort of active in ANOTHER game, but has not responded to any sort of communication by any of us, and honestly it just seems he got lucky by requesting the game early on. I don't even think he has ever ran the game in any capacity. Socrates, he probably the most basic definition of a guy that has moved on. That's fine and dandy, I'm not saying everyone has to devote huge chunks of their time to maintaining a board for an old outdated PC game, but if you're gonna put yourself in a position of series mod, you better at least respond to people when they try to contact you, and not just blatantly ignore them. If you want to move on, step down and move on. I already discussed Jake, and he's shown the most involvement of the mods admittedly. He just has a very blunt way of posing his opinions and hasn't really shown a willingness to really get any more involved other than answering an occasional question about mechanics. He hasn't really shown a commitment to the community when it comes to listening to opinions, and comes off disinterested most of the time. Most don't even know why he's mod other than he just knows a lot of things.

I also can't help but feel a bit slighted by the way the MGS situation was handled. Now I will preface this by saying that I totally agreed with miniomegaking and the community on their situation and stand behind them, and I'm glad it worked out. However, he didn't really provide any evidence, and quite frankly the people that ended up having their mod status removed actually were involved in at least running to a degree (well, at least one of them had a decent amount of participation). You said you didn't want to do much more for thief because it was a "weird situation I don't understand", but his word was kind of just taken. Looking at one of the people demodded, he was clearly a native french speaker and probably knew bare-bones English at best. Maybe he was not involved because he couldn't even communicate at a basic level? It's not like, say, he was just disinterested in the games he moderated and, despite being fully active on social media and even in the discord dedicated to the speedrunning of the games, and just remained outside and didn't involve himself in conversations intentionally.

Yes, I am this mad about the situation. It is what it is.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
YUMmy_Bacon5, Doc-ill and 3 others like this
New York, USA

Sorry to pop in again. One moderator for Marvel: Ultimate Alliance has been helpful. The other, Zen_IVAN, has been reticent on all platforms and rejected a run without clarifying the rules FOR that run, despite being asked.

I have a run submitted now. Can I PLEASE be made a moderator for this game, so I can clean up the rules for all types of run and moderate the forums (Because nobody else is doing it).

Edited by the author 6 years ago
YUMmy_Bacon5 likes this
New York City, NY, USA

I've decided to try communicating with Jake again and he's so far been working along with us and has participated in recent votes. I'm still a bit miffed he has basically been uninvolved up until now, so it could be a one time thing or some other situation. Looking back on the post, I went a little too harsh on him, but he has in the past acted in the way I presented (just having his say be the "be all end all" for a discussion). I've edited the original post to reflect a less harsh view on him, but I still stand by that it's not very comfortable having him basically be the person wielding the most power at the time being.

I still stand by what I said for the other three mods though. None of them have shown any worthiness for their positions and were mostly the ones responsible for letting the board decay like it did. So I guess at this point the overall request I'd be making is for me and Jake to be series mods, because the other 3 just couldn't give a damn and really shouldn't be in their positions.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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Antarctica

I am currently the only mod of the Liberation Maiden leaderboards (https://www.speedrun.com/libmaid) and was requested by a more recent runner if they could become a mod. Since I no longer run the game I would like it if this would be made possible. I requested it in this thread before and nothing came of it. The user's name is dpebble.

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Washington, USA
EmeraldAly
She/Her, They/Them
6 years ago

You can mod them yourself. Hit "edit game" and go down to the Moderators section. You'll find yourself there plus the option to add more people.

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Lower Saxony, Germany

Hello there, I wanted to apply for Mod status for the game Dauntless (www.speedrun.com/dauntless) Because there are new runs and they are not added, I posted them into the forum 5 Days ago. Also there are outdated hunts, wich could be marked as "outdated". and the current moderator has no way to contact him linked, and onsite messages are coming soon. Thats why I wanted to become a mod.

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Valhalla

@MDS_xer0nreloaded the mod for that game was on within the last 4 hours. In your one forum post on that game you fail to mention that you want to become a moderator. Try asking that there, not here. Generally a moderator has 3 weeks to respond. So you'll have to be patient. Also, not sure what you mean by "outdated". Do you mean the speedruns listed just use old strats, or were just made awhile ago? If so that's no reason to label something outdated, but I think I'm just misunderstanding something.

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Lower Saxony, Germany

@Komrade I just want to become moderator, because the new hunts werent added (wich are in the game for about 4 months now), also the gameversions you can assign to your runs are old (we have newer versions right now). and by outdated i mean they are no longer in the game at this moment. they got removed with the last major update, and i thought it would be a cool thing to mention it in the titles of the missions. Aswell as the Game has different parts of progress, knwon as tiers. And right now, there is no order in the hunts here on the site, so it would be good, if its either tier based or alphabetic or something. and I know, that the mod was online recently, he approved my runs... But its looking, like he has no idea about the current state of the game (probably doesnt play it anymore) The whole dauntless section looks somehow neglected...

But I wll try to contact him again in the forums thanks Komrade

France

Because he's banned ?

YUMmy_Bacon5,
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Angus, Scotland

Did a speedrun on rainbow six outbreak. I got a message it got confirmed but it doesnt show up in the list.

https://www.speedrun.com/r6_siege#Outbreak

I'm new to this site and I could not figure out how to get in touch with the mod who aproved it. sorry

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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Antarctica

@SnowManBob the filters aren’t set up correctly.

Go to the Sierra Veteran Wing and go Filters -> 3rd Difficulty Filter (why they have 3 I have no idea) -> Pandemic/Any and your run should show up now

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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Angus, Scotland

@Timmiluvs (no idea how to do @'s)

Yep thats it. Thanks!

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New York, USA

Hello again.

I'm reporting on the sorry state of Marvel: Ultimate Alliance moderating.

I submitted a run last week that was first upheld by Weebmeister, but was then rejected by ZEN_Ivan on the grounds that it wasn't New Game (NG), it was New Game Plus (NG+). The reason he specifically stated was that our characters had outfits unlocked at the beginning of the game. Another run, solo NG submitted by WoweetheDoggo, had a character outfit unlocked but was upheld, apparently because ZEN_Ivan hadn't noticed the outfit selection 12 minutes into the run. After querying the threads nothing had been settled, other than some confusion about what was and wasn't a NG run.

Invited to a discord chat last night, some things became clear. Mostly everyone was on board with unlocked outfits being allowed for NG runs. This added to depth and breadth of strategy, as outfits provide a variety of bonuses that are useful in the touch-and-go nature of NG runs. The lone dissenter, ZEN_Ivan, repeatedly claimed that he did not have access to unlocked outfits for NG, only unlocked characters. It was discovered that the non-Steam PC, OXbox, and PS2 versions of the game also did not allow saved outfits to carry into new NG runs (only NG+). Regardless of consensus (including the other moderator Weebmeister's), ZEN_Ivan repeatedly stated that the argument was finished and that a NG run meant absolutely no unlocks. No unlocks included outfits, but also in-game characters such as Silver Surfer, Blade, and Daredevil. However, a NG run did mean that DLC content was available, which includes characters like Nightcrawler and the Hulk on some platforms. This muddled what a 'brand new save file' meant. In order to ensure NG runs were NG, some runners will be forced to play through the game without saving and/or wipe their save files at the end of every playthrough. The reason for this was it would be "easier" for reviewing run submissions, as you can check in the first five minutes if a runner has any unlocks (meaning you don't have to watch the rest of the run). There was also chatter of creating platform-groups of run categories, amounting to no fewer than 72 different categories, when it could easily be 24 or fewer.

ZEN_Ivan was adamant that having unlocked outfits constituted some unfair advantage, despite the fact that everyone else was on board with permitting them. He also insisted on increasing the disparity for consoles (for NG) by restricting the characters available at the start of the game.If he was against unfair advantages between consoles, he shot himself in the foot by restricting characters to base and DLC, where the version differences are far more game-breaking than having outfits available. He used foul language and insulted other players while providing no arguments himself. He harassed a brand-new runner, Escade, for not having any runs (something along the lines of, "why should I listen to you, you who haven't submitted any runs yet") but proceeded to invite a toadie, Shadow_Dog to the conversation- who also does not have any runs submitted and is (edit: was, briefly) now a moderator. (I was informed in this SR.com thread that I could not be a moderator without having submitted a run). (I'll also admit that I grew more antagonistic as the conversation wore on... internet fights)

In trying to rectify the disparity between outfits, ZEN_Ivan played a pivotal role in not only taking the meta for New Game runs a step backwards, to a more restrictive and less creative game type, but also removed several excellent runs from contention for records, including the previously mentioned run by WoweetheDoggo. The game is now even less accessible to new runners or runners unwilling to erase their save files in order to compete in the NG category, or runners without access to DLC.

In this thread (where this is being posted) I was repeatedly referred to the moderators of the game. The moderator in charge has proven to be selfish and shortsighted, and if other people involved in the Discord conversation are honest, they will back me up on that. We had a group consensus that made the rules clear and simple and would increase competitiveness and creativity, and group consensus was strongarmed by a person who- to serve his own vague interests- reduced both. This is the person admins in this thread told me to turn to.

Sadly, I'm fairly certain that the administrators of SR.com are neutered in their ability to take any action, and are instead content to let the fox run the henhouse. I get the feeling this happens all over the site, which is unfortunate when you consider the following speedrunning has and the outside interest that might be turned off by poor interactions. I implore you to speak with Weebmeister and Escade- at least- to try and understand/change the situation, but unfortunately I believe the MUA community and rules will remain exclusive, unfriendly, and unhelpful to any runner outside of a select cadre.

As an aside, I have runs to submit and will do so after writing this post. I confident that they will either be delayed in their review or will be rejected outright for something bogus like sound/picture quality. (Edit: they have been approved, but aren't in the right run cats).

Sorry for the length of this post.

Edit 3/29: A run was refused because "Normal is not a category now". Unilaterally decided, to my knowledge.

Edited by the author 5 years ago
YUMmy_Bacon5, Escade and 4 others like this
North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

^^^^ Didn't read, but agreed! Kappa

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Denmark

Hello, I would like to apply for moderator in the The Contact Machine speed run category, as the current moderator is inactive, and I need someone to add my world record to the list. If I can't become a moderator, then I hope someone outside the game can verify it, as the only moderator for the game is inactive.

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United States

I normally don't like to go to these measures, especially as the current moderator for this game IS active (been on 6 hours ago, submitted a run 10 days ago), however has not responded to any fourm request we have approached him with, has not responded to the YouTube comment I left him with a contact request, and his Discord and Twitch links do not work.

The game is Mario & Sonic at the London 2012 Olympic Games. The link is here: https://www.speedrun.com/Mario_and_Sonic_At_The_London_2012_Olympic_Games/full_game

We have had someone (Either myself or user SonicSam) attempt to contact him for some category requests for the past 2 months. He has been on, verified runs, but yet to even respond to any of the contact requests we send out.

I have a good amount of experience in being moderators for games, I would be happy to take over, but I think we all just want him to respond and allow us to contact him.

Sorry if this is a bother to anyone, just trying to save a game from becoming dead.

Best Regards, Cmdr

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