Glitchless Red Nido&Trade Strat Idea
6 years ago
Turkey

Hi guys, I was thinking about getting Nido in Red and then preventing evolution until it can be in-game traded to male one. Since it will have 1.5x Exp it will have more Atk points in the long run and maybe shorter battles.

Can it be viable?

Bonus Question since there is no rule about link cable trading, can't we transfer any Pokemon like starmie or other that can carry the game?

England

Hello,

as far as I'm aware, using more than one console for single-player speedruns is generally banned.

Otherwise people would just trade in Level 100 pokemon and it wouldn't be a challenge.

He's referring to the trades you can have with the npcs. Also, I'm pretty sure you trade a nidoran male for a female not the other way around. Even if it was though you would be wasting too much time using a weak unevolved pokemon. One of the main appeals of the nidoran route is you get a nidoking extremely early.

England

Even if this were both possible and legal I don't think there's a guarantee for the DVs you'd get on an ingame trade, which would still have significant importance even with a couple of extra levels.

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Turkey

9k4 there is no rules against it. Maybe they should be added

England

There are more rules that need updating than just that.

United States

Performing an in game trade is completely within the rules of the category. Old runs used to trade Spearow for Farfetch'd for a cut slave. In my eyes, link cable trading is banned under common sense, but would also fall under the "Having a save file present on the cart/emulator when you start the run is not allowed" rule. If you're trading from another cartridge to get a level 100 poke, then you started with a save file already present

Regarding the usefulness of this, I would agree with what most of the people in the thread are saying. Even if the trade existed (I believe you give it male for female), there would be many setbacks. You would have to delay evolving all the way through to Bill (which, fighting only the necessary trainers, would still be like level 23), meaning you have to time loss from starting the evolution 6+ times, not to mention the extra turns because you are not a Nidoking. Then, the in game trade itself would take around a minute (plus the detour if you didn't do Misty before the trade). The traded poke would also have a preset nickname that you can't change, meaning each time its name is displayed it wastes frames. Also, you would get 1.5x experience, yes, but you would also get extra text each time you faint an opponent "Nidoking gained a BOOSTED 300exp.". That extra text would add up for sure. To top it all off, the Nidoking would stop obeying you at level 30 (until you beat Erika/Sabrina) unless you did TID Manipulation to ensure you have the same TID as the traded poke, but that would then negate the extra experience as the game would think it's yours.