Wanted to start speedrunning SA2
4 years ago
Washington, USA

So I've been wanting to get into speedrunning SA2 glitchless for a while now since it was my first Sonic game & I've wanted to get really good at mastering the actual level layouts but when going to get things needed for it like the timer setup I noticed there was no glitchless category here. Has no one else wanted to do glitchless runs?

Belgium

I almost exclusively speedrun "skipless", in other words I restrict myself by not doing a bunch of skips and glitches. The problem with skips in this game is, what do we constitute a skip? It's far worse with glitches. One could argue that Super Bounce is not a glitch, but an exploit. And a Super Bounce, or at least smaller forms thereof, is done all the time in casual play. We just abuse it to its fullest to get a lot of vertical speed.

There are a lot of small things like that that make defining a glitchless category rather arbitrary. Skipless would be nice, but this too is arbitrary. What constitutes a skip? I used to do door skips in Pyramid Cave but eventually stopped doing even those, even though they only save 1/2 second/s and 20 seconds ish respectively. Are we allowed to do Axl jump in Hidden Base? ( top left)

There are many more small, dumb stuff like this. It becomes too arbitrary, and that's why there likely won't be any skipless (let alone glitchless) categories. (Also, for reference, I only do PC Skip in 180 Emblems speedruns lol)

DrunkGecko likes this
Ontario, Canada

Mainly what Snodeca said, there's too many small things that are very arbitrary to figure out whether they count as a glitch or not along with the fact that many can be argued both ways which keeps it as something we don't want to touch when it comes to setting up a category but of course you are free to run it like that! there's no obligation to do runs with various glitches it's just what you want to do!