For now, I think the best rule for Any% NG is to restrict the use of DLC weapons. It alters the early game way too much and certain weapons are exclusives that you can't get anymore. I'm happy to hear other opinions though.

I agree! It would be silly to make anyone who wants to get into the game buy the DLC weapons on top of the game. Even though I just beat WR using the "nothing but the hits" DLC weapon (or maybe certain ones could be usable if the community can agree on it). This is a new thing though right? Or did I just miss this bit "You must uninstall all DLC weapons to prevent getting extra weapons at the start of the game."

I only added that bit yesterday. Sorry I didn't bring this up sooner! Everyone who runs this basically fell off the map so I didn't know who to talk to, and then your run came in and I was like "well shit".

haha fair enough. I was feeling silly after reading that. I have been running it a lot this past week, I also submitted sunset any% for SGDQ so maybe the game will get some people!

Really? If you get in that would be awesome! I'll swap over from ILs to Any% to help you with routing if that happens.

That would be sweet! Ill let you know if I get a reply :)

so how did it go Taylib

It got rejected for SGDQ 2015. I thinks its a blessing in disguise. The run has come very far since then. I will continue to submit sunset runs for future GDQs.

Not sure if this is a dead forum post, but since they recently gave the pre order weapons out to everybody should they be allowed in future speed runs? As far as I know this is really the only community for this game so it would be up to us to decide that.

Have they? Well that's interesting. I'd personally still prefer if they weren't allowed (it alters the early game way too much) but I'm totally okay with them being allowed if everyone else is on board. We'd need to make a specific list of which ones are/aren't restricted.

I agree with Nacho. Even one gun would change the early game a lot. Then where do we draw the line? I know some guns would really improve early game times.

What if we made a new category? Any% with dlc guns.

All Weapons and No DLC Weapons? I can get behind that.

E: They should probably be called Any% and Any% No DLC respectively.