DIP switches
3 years ago
Denver, CO, USA

It appears that there are DIP switches that modify how long the player has to complete the goals. By default, all switches are off for me (using Mesen) which locks the time limit to around 4:54.XX (starting from the 400 frame in SMB 1, so I guess it's like 5:07ish overall real time)

If all switches are set to on, the player has considerably more time (9:48ish) before being kicked out making the current Any% Tetris 25 line goal much more achievable and allowing for potentially crazy high scores.

The actual cart uses these switches so there's no unfair hardware vs emulator advantage (unless you can't set the switches for some reason on Everdrive/Power Pak)

Basically, do we allow the changing of DIP switches to make the Any% run more friendly? If a Powerpak/ED user could chime in on this as well, that would be good.

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Ohio, USA

I think allowing dip switch changes and changing the tetris category to 300k points or something else thats actually on the tetris leaderboards would be a good idea. In my opinion 25 lines is too little for tetris. It's quite short and not very challenging.

dlloyd10 likes this
Arizona, USA

I'd say separate each leaderboard by each time that can be set via DIP switches kind of how the Mario 64 leaderboard seperates if you're playing on console or emulator. The default time is 6 minutes and 21 seconds which was used in the actual tournament back in 1990. You can actually see what each switch does on the grey cart label itself (https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/videogamecollecting/images/e/e3/557px-1990_Nintendo_World_Championships_Gray.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100102023346). Having more timing options would be great if the default time is just too little for some runners.

dlloyd10 likes this
Denver, CO, USA

That would line up, my "zero switch" time plus switch 3 would get us to the 6:21 limit which I feel is reasonable. We don't have to adhere to the tournament rules but I feel like the main Any% goal with Tetris 25 lines should be locked to the 6:21 time and require only switch 3 by default. I don't think this is unreasonable and should allow most runners to finish the goal. High Score could then be a misc category where anything goes, including all 4 switches so you can see the astronomical scores people will be able to get.

Thoughts?

dlloyd10 likes this
Wisconsin, USA

Throwing in my 2 cents

I wouldn't be opposed to having some kind of "high score any dip switches" misc. category but i think the real high score should be done within the spirit of the competition from 30 years ago(i.e. 6:21 time limit)

I have no problem with any folks wanting more time to complete any%, and would say any DIP switch settings that give you 6:21 or more to do so would be fine and make the run more accessible.

Not sure if there is a way to mess with the DIP switches on Everdrive. I'll do some investigating.

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Wisconsin, USA

https://krikzz.com/forum/index.php?topic=9991.0

Quick Google search brought me this post from Krikzz's forums.

It does not appear that you can adjust the DIP switches on an Everdrive

dlloyd10 likes this
Denver, CO, USA

I like Aries' suggestions here. It doesn't require any retimes, it seems reasonable and fair and it would spark competition in the way the original tournament was built for.

dlloyd10 likes this
Québec

I agree with @AriesFireTiger I think it's fair that High Score w/ DIP switches should be a misc category to respect the original timer competition.

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Denver, CO, USA

The following changes have been implemented:

  1. Speedrun categories can use any dip switch configuration since it wouldn't really affect anything.

  2. Main high score category must use dip switch 3 on and nothing else to match the original intended competition. Your run will end around 6:08 using our timing rules.

  3. We made a misc category for "high score all dip switches" to give people the max amount of time to see how silly the scores can get. I legitimately hope some shenanigans happen that break the game somehow, haha.

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