Is this how Mods treat Speedrunners?
6 years ago
New Jersey, USA

No it has not taken even 24 hours for each approval. I am only waiting for sutiibu to approve it out of fairness. He should get it done in the week if that. Nowhere did I say I am the only verifier.

Edit: If you did not read but I already approved his run twice which made it to the leaderboards so it is best for someone else to approve the same run I have already approved.

Edited by the author 6 years ago

He's not telling the whole truth. The only reason I've been re-verifying the exact same run and same video, is because he immaturely took it upon himself to edit my description box of my run, trying to say that I don't have proof that I used a broken controller. What a joke. So I then resubmitted my video calling him out on his clear BS. Here's a screenshot of my response:

https://gyazo.com/972e2d1fd02d1bc476474f83aff2637a

He, all of a sudden, won't re-verify my runs anymore. That's okay, since he's not fit for the job as he fails to set aside personal vendettas rather than be a professional. Which is to judge my speedrun record, not the existence of this broken controller, which I also provided a picture for, here:

https://gyazo.com/863a6f8c75f54b5aa49b6fd9287084dc

In other words, he won't re-verify the run at least in part because of my comment.

He may or may not have asked Sutiibu in the past to verify my runs, which I'm guessing he didn't. Why would he need to wait on the approval of a run that Sutiibu has already seen? It's logical Sutiibu hasn't ever seen my run thus far.

The only other explanation is that I personally challenged him and his pride; if he's so confident that I'm a cheater, then go over my run and prove it. Watch it over and over and over again. The end result will be the same. He'll have to swallow his pride and verify me as the top spot again.

Edit

And lastly, we'd all love to see your 11 minute Nidhogg run. There are plenty of Twitch streamers that break records and have music and other things playing in the background. Even if you don't submit it officially, you can still upload it to YouTube! As others have pointed out, you joined the site very recently, have no runs posted, etc. Just who are you and what credentials do you have for a moderator position?

And never did I say I thought you only rejected my run. You just randomly assumed that just now? The other runs you may or may not have rejected have no relevance to me and my run. That is a red herring to draw attention away from holding you accountable for your BS. Not going to happen.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
coolestto, josef733 and 8 others like this
North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany

^^ Fucking damn!

  1. I never said you rejected my most recent run.
  2. The image does nothing to address or disprove the controversies and allegations you've made.
  3. You conveniently left out why I resubmitted it, which is because you personally edited my run description stating I needed proof I used a broken controller while speedrunning the game. So then I resubmitted another description with the same run, calling you out for it. Ahaha!

https://gyazo.com/972e2d1fd02d1bc476474f83aff2637a

And

https://gyazo.com/dcedfa303274b889ac470880bf14cc73

You should link Sutiibu to this thread!

Sklitterbeer likes this
Maryland, USA

@NovaTitan is trying his hardest to cover himself up but it's nor working lol. He's not worthy of a mod.

New Jersey, USA

Not really. I did not delete anything and have same screenshots he has. I don't know what the big deal is. I am not refuting anything and have no reason to.

Edit: Screenshot only to show I contacted him.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Maryland, USA

You rejected his run because he did not have proof he did not use a tool. You should reject his run only if you find something sketchy like something spliced. Just stop trying to cover yourself up and delete your account.

Gg uninstalled.

Netherlands

Woah I got lost in this whole conversation. Can't NovaTitan just show proof why he thinks chhipz cheated with ACTUAL image or audio proof? A second moderator is always nice in game leaderboards to prevent this stuff from happening ^^"

You say TAS, but can you actually show he did frame perfect jumps or some move that's 99% impossible to execute as a human being? If you have something like this, I can understand why you think it's TAS. But even with frame perfect jumps it's not always a legit proof he did a TAS. Right now, it seems stupid to call someone a cheater without having actual proof.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Sklitterbeer, Aureus_Lunae and 4 others like this
Scotland

If SM64 WR is allowed dropped frames, I think this game should be.

Just a quick update:

  1. My run has not been reapproved.
  2. Sutiibu (the other Nidhogg mod) has not responded to my twitter message or reapproved my run despite them being active.
  3. I have posted in the moderator thread regarding the moderator dilemma, and have yet to receive any type of response thus far.

That's all for now.

Valhalla

Yeah the admins are busy people and get to the mod request thread when they can, give them time and stop trying to drag on what will already be resolved soon.

zachary likes this
Richmond, VA, USA

I'm sorry everyone involved has to be troubled by, what seems on the surface, like an easy enough fix. Petty squabbling and emotional judgments don't have any place in the Moderator/Runner interaction.

 As Mod, your (volunteer) job is simply to verify the run time as accurate unless you have a very strong suspicion (preferably backed by evidence) as to why it shouldn't be verified. There are plenty of people/Mods for other games that are more than happy to serve as another set of eyes if there's a TAS suspicion and you're not proficient in spotting the "help". I don't see where comments regarding how the run was completed (I used a broken controller. No you didn't prove it!) are necessary or professional. In my opinion, one shouldn't edit the comments of a submitted run except to supplement that information or reflect an adjustment in the timing, but that's just me. 

 I'm not going to speculate on whether or not somebody should be a Mod for a game based off of their experience Speed Running, since being a player of a game doesn't make you a good referee for the game and vice versa, however the fact that this is still being talked about more than a week later tells me that it isn't being handled in an efficient manner. Since runs can be retroactively declined after approval, it makes sense to me to verify the run if there's only suspicion and no obvious evidence of cheating, and alert the other Mod to take a second look over the run. I'm not taking sides because this just seems like a spiraled-out-of-control miscommunication that isn't being handled correctly.  

 As far as the runner (Chhipz) is concerned, I hope this get's taken care of sooner rather than later because I personally don't see the hold up (I may be missing some info) but I do know that the Admin(s) have a lot on their plate so will take some time getting to/resolving the matter. I suppose that's the point of having Mods, so you can mitigate some of the workload. Side note, congrats on the run! (pending approval)
coolestto, Aureus_Lunae and 2 others like this