Some ideas for leaderboard and rule changes
3 years ago
Keski-Suomi, Finland

Hi. Just learned the game and managed to get the wr in satsuki no star.

I don't want to be rude or anything but I've been moderating different speedrun leaderboards for some time and have plenty of experience in the field so I have a couple of questions about the moderation: First of all why is part B a category? You're just starting from the cutscene after you beat the first fight. I feel like this offers absolutely nothing as a category and I wonder why it's even there. Secondly I want to ask why the consoles are the upper categories and not satsuki, ryuko and satsuki and ryuko for example? This makes the board look worse and is really bad on livesplit because the categories listed are literally just the consoles and you need to go to additional details to get the actual categories. In general I don't really see why the categories should be split just because of load times. PS4's have a pro version aswell as a normal version aswell as an option for ssd and hdd which all have different loading times. Not to mention inconsistencies with different PCs. You could very easily just put all the console runs on the same board and just filter by console to see the console rankings. When there's no concrete difference between the versions such as a pc exclusive skip for example there's really no point in splitting boards based on consoles as you can compare the fights 1 to 1 by just starting the comparison on when the fight starts and end it on the finish screen, which gives you an accurate comparison to the WR even on console. Obviously the load times are going to be bad enough to the point you can't get WR but you can still do the filter thing I mentioned to see the console WR. Also there was a guy on the forums that complained about the rules being confusing and was not answered. I have to agree with him and I feel like the rules can be made much clearer. I also feel like all S-ranks could be a good category to add as a sort of a 100% style category. I don't care if it's on boards or not but other people might like it to be on there. If you guys mod me I can do all of these changes without you guys having to worry about it, but I understand if you chose to do them yourself. I do however think that most of these changes are warranted and probably should be put in place. Another thing that would be good to do is a discord for the game. the game can be very confusing to learn and being able to ask top runners tips would be very good.

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Keski-Suomi, Finland

Just wanna add to the a and b thing that if those are to be removed the best way to go about the category order is most likely to have the difficulties and possibly all s-ranks as the main categories and have the character storylines as variables. If you would do characters as main categories you would run into problems with the blindfolded category whereas with difficulties you can just have blindfolded to be done on a set difficulty like no-star for example. The version you play on can also very easily be a variable if we decide to not merge consoles and pc.

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maybe pc and PlayStation could be merged and not switch cause switch has lag during battles

Keski-Suomi, Finland

watched one of the switch runs and there seems to be a bit of lag yeah. it's not super big tho from what I saw and that amount of lag can prob happen on the slower playstation models and slower PCs. I don't run on switch so I don't know what the game feels like to play with the lag.

I think survival challenge and covers challenge should be added as a misc category. I haven't messed with survival but covers have a 100 unit and the description is "Defeat 100 COVERS as fast as possible!" which sounds like a speedrun challenge. the category being treated like smash bros all star mode https://i.imgur.com/0y5zdcI.png

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Keski-Suomi, Finland

survival challenge is just an endless fight. there's really no point to track high scores on speedrun leaderboard, but 100 cover challenge is p cool to add as a category, however you can just abuse nonon or ragyo and basically always ensure an almost perfect time

true but i think it should still be added as a little neat thing

it would prob be better like this tbh https://i.imgur.com/DqQ9akE.png

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Keski-Suomi, Finland

I actually like that idea. Having it as an IL and having all 12 characters as a separate IL category

Keski-Suomi, Finland

would just be a little congested

let hope the mods add it cause it would be a small little side category

also PS5 should be added cause games like Dragon Ball Fighter Z, Celeste and Minecraft are listed for PS5 even tho its the PS4 version.

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United States

Ok, so after doing some research and reading everyone’s post I think that the best course of action is to adjust the board. Character categories will become variables and not sub cats like how we have them on the Mortal Kombat Boards. The exception will be Satsuki and Ryuko category will become a Misc category. With Story Mode B I have to agree with @Herasmie as it skips the first fight entirely but is the same as Story Mode A from there on. So, as I am not a believer in removing runs and if B modes are merged with A mode then B modes will always be fastest. Which will make A mode useless and so B Mode will become a Misc category on its own. There will be two main categories and I’m proposing Story mode and the other will be S-Ranks. When it comes to platforms, I feel that they should not be merged. Reason is that first the Switch version is a lag fest and should be its own. With regards to the PS4 version anyone running that version will be at a clear disadvantage against PC. Yes, there are two models of the PS4 and which one someone plays on determines how fast a run will be potential, as it is the same as a runner with a powerful PC while using an SSD. Now with the PS5 out that will be allowed to be used on the PS4 category and I feel that it still won’t match the speed of a PC and if it does then perhaps runs done on a PS5 can be moved to the PC category. Once I get a PS5 I will be able to test that out unless someone else does first. So, the board structure will be Story Mode followed by the sub category of difficulty No stars and 3 stars and finally the sub categories of which platform. As far as the Cover challenge, I too feel that it is a great idea and the IL board will be perfect for it. Let me know what yall think and thank you for your input.

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Keski-Suomi, Finland

those changes seem great. thanks for listening me out. we definitely need to look into making a discord aswell.

United States

Yes, I totally forgot about the discord and will make it today. Thanks for reminding me :)

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United States

Both IL board and Main board are done. Let me know if I missed anything. Looking forward to the runs. Good luck and have fun. :)

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