Supermod banned?
3 years ago
Maryland, USA

Hi, it seems @Amei has been banned for some reason. We assume this is related to this run submission: https://www.speedrun.com/na/run/zx63568z

To someone not familiar with the board this might look like spam, but its a regular submission that has a place holder video. The rejection message should also clearly show this wasn't a serious issue, and we were simply waiting for him to upload his VOD.

Amei is a Super Mod for Automata and we talk between mods very regularly. I'm not sure what site rule was broken but a temp-ban seems like a bit of an overstep here.

Pear, Ivory and 9 others like this
Italy

It is an automathic system that ban people who submitted a video or other link that is categorized as "spam".

If you put "spam" in a rejection form, the system will also find similar content in other runs and those will be automatically rejected.

Maryland, USA

Well I put as the rejection reason, not spam. If this was an automated ban, it happened well after I initially rejected the run and Amei was not notified. This is also not a documented feature anywhere as far as I can tell, and if it is I'm not sure why site staff are okay with mods being able to get users site banned.

Maybe it should be considered that an automated system shouldn't be able to ban a mod, let alone a super mod, for matters occurring within their own game. Either way Amei is still banned when he shouldn't be. Losing a super mod when we are about to make decent sized board changes is rather annoying.

Imaproshaman, Shiinyu and 5 others like this
Québec

Not to mention the other games that @Amei actively moderates, they're now out of commission from him being banned. Additionally the user wasn't even notified that they were banned which is highly concerning, no notifications on the site or anything.

Shiinyu, Pear and 7 others like this
European Union

[QUOTE=dha] It is an automathic system that ban people who submitted a video or other link that is categorized as "spam".

If you put "spam" in a rejection form, the system will also find similar content in other runs and those will be automatically rejected. [/QUOTE] I may be wrong, but I am 99% sure the bans are done manually. The system just flags the runs.

Imaproshaman, Shiinyu and 2 others like this
Netherlands

@RodG No point in posting in the forums about this. Message ShadowDraft or any other FMod to get this sorted. Fastest solution.

Imaproshaman, Shiinyu and 2 others like this
Netherlands

Ah well, seems like he was already unbanned anyway. Maybe Amei with his absolute 5Head shouldn't post spam runs KEKW

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Shiinyu, SuperAL1, and RodG like this
England

Woo freedom.

Just to clarify, it wasn't a spam run. I just used a placeholder video so I could fill out the details while they were still up on my screen. I've done it that way for years.

Honestly, I'm still confused how it happened at all. I was told they thought it was an abuse of power from a supermod, but all I did was submit two runs to the board.

As far as I understand it, if my run had been accepted instead of rejected, site mods would not have been notified at all, so it seems the bot isn't really doing its job in flagging things in this scenario.

Edit: To be extra clear, this was a manual ban.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
Shiinyu, Ivory and 8 others like this
Scotland

I'm confused. Why would you submit a run this way when you could use notepad / Word / literally any other method to note down the details for later before actually submitting a real run.

I get that you've done it for years, but I don't get why.

Shiinyu, SuperAL1, and Pear like this
Québec

https://i.imgur.com/ZWxSGhn.jpg

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England

Bro I don't claim to have the brightest ideas, but I wasn't planning on being smited for my lack of intelligence.

Shiinyu, O.D.W. and 9 others like this
Scotland

I'm not smiting you, I'm just curious. I'm surprised that it was allowed for so long is all and wondered if there was something I was missing.

England

Pretty much the only reason is its much easier for me to fill out all the details after I PB. I already have livesplit up and can pull the splits data from splits.io, so it makes little sense (at least to me) to copy it at all into a notepad file to then dig up again a few days later.

It seems I'm in the minority, but there is really no reason it should cause issues when only 5 people can see it. Board mods handle their own boards on behalf of the community, the site shouldn't really get involved unless someone approaches them.

Pear and RodG like this

about having a filler video, or a rendering video, i really dislike to see that as a mod, when i work trough the verification load and then there is in the end a video rendering or a note that the submission will be edited. I dont like that, especially when editing is useless it might as well be not in the line.

Shiinyu and XeroGoFast like this
Argentina

Perhaps the site could implement some sort of "draft state" for runs to accomodate cases such as these? The draft would only be visible for the runner and noone else, and they could edit it later when they have the video ready or whatever and "publish" (which would basically be the current submission process for the mods to verify).

I understand it's probably quite the effort for a very niche case, but it'd be pretty cool to see it implemented nonetheless.

Edited by the author 3 years ago
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England

Thanks for the welcome back speedrun.com. Glad to know you've got me covered.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502996181924970509/832204180085014548/unknown.png

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