All Missions% as a category
8 years ago
Bulgaria

Hi, since the partial demise of Any% by duping, instead of starting an endless argument about it, i'm thinking we could make an All Missions category, the definition for it would be:

  • All Missions on the map that don't disappear when too far away, i.e story missions, Zero, Casino, Wang Cars.
  • No duping, since thats the point of the category
  • Possibly add schools, because they are still on the minimap and they count as missions, whether they're boring and whatnot, could lead to just leaving them out of the run.
  • Trucking, races, and etc will be left out since they vanish from minimap distance.

A temporary solution for Any% could be to add a ''With duping'' or vice versa as a subtitle next to said run, kind of similair to the fps legacy, but not in the comment of the VOD since not many would see it.

Yes, this would've been a meme category or whatever before, but now it haves purpose.

If you have any suggestions or ideas about the category, go ahead.

Also post yes or no, if you agree with this.

tduva, derek31047 and 4 others like this
Friesland, Netherlands

Replying to the items in your list, in the same order:

  • All Missions with a permanet map marker is a solid definition, despite it being different from the one in VC and III, I think it'd be more fun.
  • If duping is faster then I think it should be allowed. Problem is it would skip mission and lock out the category, so in that regard the category serves as a good substitute for any% no dupes. If there's a way to dupe the last mission in a chain or something though to speed it up, I don't see a reason to not allow it, since its faster and all the missions would still be done.
  • This would be arbitrary and stupid. Pick a definition and stick with it. All permanently marked missions == All permanently marked missions, no exceptions. Boat and Bike school aren't permanently marked, so they should not be needed with this definition.
  • Agreed, these are boring and nobody wants to do these and if they do there's 100%.

While I agree that with actual mission skips in any% now, the category actually gained some legitimacy. But I'm going to say "have people run it first, then when enough people show interest we can add it" like I usually do. Don't want this to go the same way as VC 35/36 USJ.

Also the categoy should be called "All Missions" not "All Missions%". Adding a % to everything is dumb.

tduva likes this
Massachusetts, USA

Agree with S.

All Missions would be interesting but I have some doubts as to whether people would run it or not. You sound like you would, Cyber, but dunno about others. If there are 2-3 times for it then it will make sense to add it, with using "duping skips missions, so don't dupe in this category if it skips missions" as a proper excuse.

tl;dr yes

Bulgaria

I know a few others who would run it, so we'll see. But why is 100 tags a category if only Haworth ran it? It wasnt until recently that Crook and Lel reset did runs. I'm assuming you'll say that it's ''misc'' but, i don't really see a difference, because it's just 1 click away lol.

Also isn't driving school marked on the map permanently? I know the other schools aren't, i dont remember if it actually disappears when you're out of SF.

Norfolk, England
zoton2
He/Him, She/Her, They/Them
8 years ago

I know a few people considered this type of category before and I even was gonna do it as a "jokey follower special" thing and even made a PasteBin, which I'm pretty sure is the same as what CyberThunder is putting forward: http://pastebin.com/G2G1Q6B0

I considered the name "All Story Missions" because they are all missions that add something to the storyline in some way.

I don't think duping to skip missions should be allowed but that's just my opinion of course.

I think at least 1 run should be done and we should see if anyone else is also interested in running it before it is added as a category on the leaderboards though.

So yes, sounds like a fine idea to me.

EDIT: @CyberThunder: I swear some other people did 100 tags ages ago, I guess they just didn't submit their times. Also, you have to do Driving School to unlock the "Wang Cars" missions, so that one will have to be done anyway. Which is why it is permanently on the map (if it actually is?).

Bulgaria

I thought it could be called All Story Missions as well, but All Missions sounds more definitive i guess. This category has been talked about for awhile and i think it already has interest.

I'll do a run soon and see how it is, i think it's going to need some re-routing a bit.

Forgot that you unlock Wang cars through driving school so no debate there.

Hampshire, England

I think this is fine, a lot of other speedruns have a "No big skips a lot of people don't like" category. Like "Glitchless", "Inbounds" and shit like that. The trick is to make it as least arbitrary as possible (I have no idea how to say that).

The permanent map marker thing seems OK, a little arbitrary but no one wants to do the schools/challenges etc unless it's 100%.

In any case, this is better than Any% Without Duping and Any% with, because then some other form of skips would be found that isn't "duping" (like instapasses) and then this gets really dumb.

Päijät-Häme, Finland

100 tags was a popular race category a while ago and I figure that's why it was added, same with Kingdom Come in gta3, nobody really does "attempts" of that.

Anyways, if people are actually going to be running this category then I'm not opposed to it being on leaderboards.

Washington, USA

I wouldn't be opposed to running this now that duping is destroyed Any% for me. I don't like the Wang Cars or Heist Missions, but at least i'd be able to glitch the minigun like 100% whether or not it's faster.

Washington, USA

In case nobody checks the "Guides" section I'll leave this here. http://www.speedrun.com/gtasa/guide/430pw

Hugo_One likes this
Friesland, Netherlands

One run submitted, somebody submit another one

New Jersey, USA

http://www.mediafire.com/download/fz2tl1o24263v7f/GTA+San+Andreas+All+Missions.lss

Made some splits of all missions.

EDIT: forgot to add "dam and blast" as a split, so you will have to add that yourself, also put "KILL KATE" instead of "KILL MILLIE".

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