Instead of borderlines, slightly different alternating background colors for entire sections could work as well. Like how sites do it when they have really long lists of stuff so you can more easily tell one item from the next.
Oh and ranking appears to be working properly, so thanks!
A thin border sounds fine. Color would possibly clash with themes. I don't know of a good scheme to change the color of it generically.
Currently the subcategory acts as a variable and on the run page it also shows up as variable:
However, as subcategories usually have more significance than other variables (especially if it's been a seperate main category until now), I would like to make two suggestions on changing how the subcategory is displayed in the run page.
(1) Display the subcategory next to the category as shown in the following image and keep other vars in the footer:
In this preview I didn't use the same font color as the main category but the header color, as some categories already use brackets, slash etc. in the main category. This makes it easier to distinguish between main and subcategory.
(2) Keep the subcategory in the footer, but highlight it somehow (change font/set apart from other vars/...). Possible solution:
Naturally there's also the option to keep it as it is. ;)
I'm trying to revamp the CoD: Zombies boards a bit and I wanted to include some subcategories but I'm unsure how to use some functions properly. Right now, I've got a whole bunch of subcategories that are working as expected but I wanted to add an option for High Rounds as well. There are 2 options that I see that would keep it clean and a third I know how to do and can implement if nothing else works.
I'll reference this board for now: http://www.speedrun.com/cod_black_ops_ii_zombies Right now it'd be nice to keep the boards as they are but add a Parent category at the bottom level, where the Easter Egg and Pack-A-Punch categories are that's just "High Rounds" and when a user clicks on it, it will expand below that for different categories, namely Round 30, Round 50, etc. I don't think this can work with how the site is built but it's still my number 1 option.
My second option is to add a general category under the number of players that is High Rounds and then a general category for other including Easter Eggs, Pack-A-Punch, etc. This will look similar to this: http://imgur.com/nl3tFwJ
I feel like this should be doable but the issue I've had here is that the categories are still all the same under those headings. I.e. both categories show Easter Egg, PaP, etc., along with all of the high rounds so it essentially doesn't eliminate possible subcategories that people can submit into. I feel like this should be doable but I'm unsure if it is.
The third option is to just add each high round category where the rest currently are. This is easiest but I wanted to weigh my options first as this will also add clutter and the whole idea with subcategories is to declutter.
It sounds like you're thinking about it correctly. I'm not sure I understand the scope of the subcategory crossover for this game well enough to make any suggestions. Maybe someone else can offer suggestion?
Is it currently possible to make a subcategory only apply to some of the categories?
http://www.speedrun.com/cc1#CC11
In this case, the Steam engine subcategory only applies to the one set (currently) and it's a little weird to have it as a subcategory option for the other sets.
Is it possible for a subcategory to have a different number of players than the parent category?
http://www.speedrun.com/nfsu1#Underground_any
I'm trying to create a subcategory for RTA/segmented type of runs, but whenever I set default value, both current runs simply disappear. I also tried to just create a variable and set the values manually, then create the subcategory, but same issue :( Could you please look at it?
EDIT: Also tried to fill the default value via the button. Still disappears.
OK, both runs now have variable, but the run from "stefeende" is marked as segmented even though it says RTA if you edit it. Changing it doesn't do anything :(
[quote=psychonauter] Currently the subcategory acts as a variable and on the run page it also shows up as variable: [image]
However, as subcategories usually have more significance than other variables (especially if it's been a seperate main category until now), I would like to make two suggestions on changing how the subcategory is displayed in the run page.
... [/quote] The way subcategories are displayed has been changed. Not exactly as you suggested in your first option, but pretty close. They're now also displayed the same way on the front page and the runs awaiting verification page, as well as in notifications (where they were missing in their entirety before).
[quote=Ihavenoname248] Is it currently possible to make a subcategory only apply to some of the categories?
http://www.speedrun.com/cc1#CC11
In this case, the Steam engine subcategory only applies to the one set (currently) and it's a little weird to have it as a subcategory option for the other sets. [/quote] Yes and no. There is unfortunately no clean way of doing this, but what you can do is instead of having one subcategory variable for all categories, make a separate subcategory variable for each category. That way, you can simply leave out the Steam engine subcategory in the subcategory variables where necessary.
[quote=FoxAndRavens] I'm trying to revamp the CoD: Zombies boards a bit and I wanted to include some subcategories but I'm unsure how to use some functions properly. Right now, I've got a whole bunch of subcategories that are working as expected but I wanted to add an option for High Rounds as well.
... [/quote] I'm not sure I entirely understand the ideal setup you're after (due to lack of knowing what is supposed to be what), but having a subcategory variable that only show up for a specific subcategory value is not possible atm. Perhaps there would be a way to apply the same solution as for Ihavenoname248? Obviously that does add clutter, but it only adds it on the backend in the edit game options, not on the actual leaderboard.
[quote=MLSTRM] Is it possible for a subcategory to have a different number of players than the parent category? [/quote] Not at this point. What case(s) do you require this for?
[quote=Ewil] ... [/quote] Leaderboards are only updated every 30 min to reduce the server load during AGDQ. I expect this is the cause for the issues you're describing. Obviously this is somewhat annoying for setting up leaderboards, but there's not much I can do other than suggest waiting with making changes until after AGDQ.
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"Not at this point. What case(s) do you require this for? "
I was thinking of using it for Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles. The categories can be split into Main: Any% / All Dungeons - Sub: Singleplayer / Co-Op / Singleplayer Glitchless
This would obviously require an upto 4 person subcategory for Co-Op runs alongside the singleplayer categories.
That solution is a little unwieldy but as you said, back-end only. I hadn't actually realized that a subcategory could be made to only apply to a single main category, so I'll definitely keep that in mind. Optimally though there'd be checkboxes for each main category the subcategory applies to (or something like that) but this works well on the small scale as a stopgap measure until a further update.
Would it be possible to make direct links for subcategories? example: If I want to see Super Mario Sunshine: Any% - Hoverless, I could use a direct link instead of automatically seeing the first subcategory and having to click the one I want.
Another question, is it possible to have a variable only apply to a single subcategory or is that not possible yet? I feel like currently it isn't possible, but I might have missed something. If it isn't, then is it something being considered?
Is there way to move the categories to subcategory? I'm just worried if i press that button and it would change everything.
I want to try to move like this.
Would it be possible to display systems/regions the same way as subcategories? Let me explain why this would be useful:
You see, people on this site don't seem to like the system variable. It looks just like any other variable, but whenever there is actual competition on more than one system, people find it unacceptable to have to use the same categories for them. Instead, you see stuff like "any% console" and "any% PC". Same goes for regions.
Now recently I was part of the restructuring of a gamepage http://www.speedrun.com/swe1r. There was a demand to separate the systems more, because as I said, the system variable is not popular. I didn't want to split the categories themselves because that would have meant to go from 4 to 12 categories. So the best option we came up with, was to remove the system variable altogether and create a system subcategory. This may be hacky, but it's the best we can do.
So again, an option to make system and/or region look like subcategories would be great!
I was wondering if an Admin could help me out to add subcategories to the MK8 Leaderboards.