Time trial leaderboard
6 years ago
Toronto, ON, Canada

Given that there are now time trials for every single level in all three games, are we going to be making a level leaderboard for speedrun.com, or are we deferring to CyberScore et al. like before?

Poland

There are in-game leaderboards so what's the point?

Toronto, ON, Canada

If prior experience with other games has taught me anything, the in-game leaderboards will be filled with cheaters and hackers posting 0:00 times (unless PS4/Xbone-era security has improved)

Victoria, Australia

The real answer is "wait for cyberscore" if you don't want to use the official boards VV put out.

There ain't gonna be no leaderboard here.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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Italy

rip TT videos, would have been cool.

Victoria, Australia

https://www.cyberscore.me.uk/game/2064

(Don't care if I posted the same thing twice on two different threads about the same topic.)

Edited by the author 6 years ago
England

The in-game leaderboards are bad because they always get hacked and they've been actively tampered with to remove legitimate times with no explanation. Disregard them. Useless.

Cyberscore kind of sucks balls for tracking down actual videos of runs for learning and generally just better documentation since proof isn't required on that website. I do not understand even slightly why you would defer to that website for speedrunning stuff, it is A Bad Call. Like half of the """records""" on that website have no proof. Fuck it. Useless.

Like, I genuinely don't understand the argument. It's the easiest thing in the world to verify, it doesn't take much effort to set up and dropping the ball on this just results in it being vastly harder to track down good TT videos. Literally why. It asks so little of you and would be worth so much.

like shit are you guys scared of having an IL community or something what's the fuckin deal I completely don't get the aversion. Is it because they're not strictly RTA or something because really who cares it doesn't seem to stop anyone from doing them so you might as well play ball.

Edited by the author 6 years ago
Victoria, Australia

[quote=SuccinctAndPunchy]Like half of the """records""" on that website have no proof. Fuck it. Useless.[/quote]

Going through your twitter and using my response I gave to you on twitter ontop of that, you can't be bothered searching up who the runner is, or what they do.

[quote=SuccinctAndPunchy]I'm so glad this japanese person claims record WITH NO FUCKING PROOF[/quote]

This runner you were bitching about on twitter is 6@. A very well known runner that you could've just done a search on here on speedrun.com to find his YouTube and Twitch which leads to his runs.

But no instead you decided that "having to whine on twitter" was the better option.

I mean if you also bothered to check the other subsections of Crash Bandicoot or even the main one you'll get some threads like these: Main CTR Crash 3 Crash: TWoC

You would see a common thread. We removed them, cause it's stupid and useless to have. And it's even more useless when a dedicated site like cyberscore can do it for you without issue, and will always request that of video.

Also all those runs by swf89 with no offense to him. They are fucking shithouse. You want to do something about that? How about you fucking make runs and obsolete his Cyberscore times.

No one is going to want to fucking manage an ass-load of IL submissions, having to watch all of them back and to verify it. Also the game is broken as fuck so some of those times that you claim are "fake" are legitimate due to how bad the game is.

But Spikestuff you're hosting Monaco that holds ILs and you implemented that why not the same here? I implemented that because the community for one actually had a leaderboard that was on Steam and the Game and only Steam had a community leaderboard that held it (and was later abandoned). Nowhere else and no regard to the game's other mode Zonaco. (Also, I'm not a moderator of N. Sane so... shut it.)

Make your own Blackjack and Hookers for N. Sane and see what happens. There is going to be either an official you won't trust for shit, Cyberscore which you're going to bitch about for no reason and we'll see what else.

We did that long ago, and it was badly maintained and obsoleted from Day 1 of creation due to the mass sites that already hosted the boards and videos.

TL;DR: Shove your fingers out of your ass.

If you have any other personal problems you want to discuss. You can go to these Discord channels: Sprash: https://discord.gg/HJhjPpZ N.Sane: https://discord.gg/KzEG9YF

[quote=SuccinctAndPunchy]How come every time I suggest a leaderboard thing there's one turbo autist who doesn't mod the game who gets pissed off at me.[/quote] Maybe because you're too busy swearing your head off and not checking other shit that I have to come down to your level and speak in a way that you'd understand.

Anything else you want to add to your twitter before you finally enter one of the Discord channels or not?

Edited by the author 6 years ago
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England

I prefer to do leaderboard discussions in forums where it's open and records are kept. Discord chats are ephemeral and hard to use for this sort of thing imo.

The in game leaderboards are bad because legit times have been deleted for no reason. It's a thing that had already happened. It hasn't been hacked yet but pretty much all in game leaderboards inevitably get fucked up and also no videos. It's just not that good. Cyberscore is bad because the proof standard is non existent and it's not widely adopted by the community, pretty simple.

Also managing IL boards is pretty easy. The runs are short and you have a literal on screen timer to match stuff with. Shit, I'd do it for yall, it's really no big deal. I handle games with large IL boards myself with no problems, it's really not a huge deal at all. Wouldn't take that long to make, wouldn't take a whole lot of upkeep.

I'm just going to ignore everything else because it's just you getting hilariously angry about what I post on twitter. Chill. You don't gain anything by getting pissed off at me on the mods behalf lmao.

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